Hey guys,

I'm Kav, I have this one thing that just seems to go wrong over and over.

Opening is no problem, I have no problems with talking and picking them up. Usually its a good convo too. I just don't know when and how to kiss close them, so we usually just end up talking for a while, then it gets boring and we both drift apart. It sucks because in retrospect they seemed intrested and i'm sure that if i did it most we go along with it.

the problem is even bigger if its a girl that i know, but never did anything with..

How do I know when to go in for the close, any tips or tricks?

Thanks. Looking forward to putting it to the test.

Hi Kav:

I'm no hard and fast PUA, but if I could speak from my own experience - As soon as you find the conversation starting to taper off a bit (you have to gauge it early) and if you are unable to carry it on with strong statements (not weak questions)...it's mission abort. Just change the subject. Go into a routine (cube, rings). Or leave. Just don't hum-and-haw and let your solid approach wither away. If you choose to leave, and if you've created a good impression, nine times out of ten, she will whine for you to stay or ask you something that will open up a window for a number close. Remember: Your time is valuable. Act like it.

After I've numbered closed, I always go for the two kisses (one on each cheek) while holding each of her hands in mine... if she's receptive, she gets a third kiss on the lips.

As far as the kiss close, the best strategy is not to think about it too much. Once you get a sufficient number of IOIs for you to operate, hold her eye contact and ask her "Wait - did you want to kiss me?"
If she says yes, you kiss.
If she gets flustered and says she doesn't know, you say, "well let's find out" and you kiss. (It has never failed for me; just don't overthink it)
If she flat out says no, you play it off like "Oh, I could've sworn you were giving me a look. You could start a war with those eyes." (play it off not like you were asking, but like she was asking)

ive personally never had the chance to K-close a girl real quick.. its always been at the end of the night.. which is lame because more could have happened if had done it earlier..

ill tell you how i did each one.. and some routines i wanna pull to k-close the next ones..

ok in the month of may i was a slut haha
it was my bday and i was going out almost everyday..

HB7 at casino
me and my buddy had gone to the casino for my bday.. we were having a good time drinking, gambling doing our thing..
theres these girls playing right next to us.. i see a lot of IOI from them before we even start talking to them.. so i know it on..

the HB7 walks by and i say look how much ive won!(50 bucks from 10 dollars its w/e)

HB7: omg how?
Me: i dont give away my secrets like that..
HB7: (has a shocked look on her face then hits me.. ) omg..
Me: haha.. its my miracle water.. (yes i am drinking)
HB7: let me have some
Me: NO its mine!

blah blah small talk about bdays n stuff.. the whole time shes sitting on my lap.. and other dudes are just staring.. lol.. i love this kinda attention..

Me: any of your friends like my friends
HB7: i dunno
Me: o ok i wanna get to know you better that y i ask and i want everyone to have a good time..
HB7: why do my friends have to like your friends in order for us to get to know each other..

at this point im thinking... hmmmmm good point..
we go our own ways for a lil.. me and my buddies are eating.. and she walks by with her friends.. i stop the group and ask them all for there number only the HB7 stops and gives me her number.. at this point she is really close to my face when she is talking to me.. (i think fuck it) as she is telling me her number i kiss her..

HB8 date
so i go on a date with this girl ive been talking to for a little bit.. actually one of my customers.. i work as an auto broker..

the date is good we shoot some pool, hang out, talk.. play arcade games.. just have a good time..

we are out in parking lot.. i ask her (i know its lame) can i kiss you.. she hesitates for a sec and says we'll you know where i stand i dont wanna lead you on (doesnt want a relationship) i say oh trust me we are on the same boat.. she starts talking again i interrupt her with a kiss

HB7 coworker
i have a new work crew pretty much everytime i work so i dont care what i do or say to them.. normally i wouldnt mess with coworkers but this is different..

Ok so after work me and some coworkers decide to get something to eat (including the HB7).. i game her up a little bit.. nothing special was said..

once we are done we all head back to her house because thats where our cars are parked.. all my coworkers leave real quick.. she ask me if i wanted to come in.. (i was sorta surprised).. but i play it cool and say sure but i can only stay for a little i have to drive home

we start watching a movie.. we are about an hour into the movie and she ask do you wanna stay im like i dunno im tired i wanna sleep in my own bed.. (i did wanna stay) haha.. we go back to watching the movie.. she ask me again about 30 mins later.. this time i say... alright but im going to have to go buy a tooth brush..

we go buy my tooth brush come back.. n shes like ima go to sleep.. (in my head im thinking what?!?) haha... im like.. hmm what should i say so we can get this started... i say "no kiss goodnight?!?" its pretty much on after that F-close (my first f-close)



the next girls i wanna just be forward and say. I havent been ballsy enough to say this yet (this was mentioned in the game i think)

"Do you wanna kiss me?"
if she has like a confused look on her face say
"it just seems like youve had something on your mind"
if she says no..
then sorta ignore it and ask again later
if she says yes
just do it
if she iffy about it or says maybe
just say "lets see" and kiss her..

if youve built enough comfort this shouldnt be a problem.. remember the only failed attempt is the one not taken! [/u][/b]

Phorgot I can really say only one thing, NICE!

The casino K-close was my favorite .
It was smooth, you just kissed her when you saw her leaning in to you and speaking right infront of you.

I just hope she didn't resist.

Awesome you guys. Thanks.

I guess ur right, its all a mind game (more in mine than hers..). Im gonna try not giving a f*ck for once and just see what happens.

I'll keep y'all posted