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It looks like this conversation thread has run its course, snip it and start something new. You don't want to continue on with this Khaki conversation really because it's going to run dry pretty soon. So go with the next routine in your head. Very simply say, "That's an interesting idea, maybe I will do that and make some big bucks. LOL. That reminds me of the time.....(insert DHV story)" It doesn't even matter if it's related or not. GREAT JOB ON GETTING HER ATTENTION. You need to work towards flipping those attraction switches now. :)

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Just got this cute Mexican girl to add me to her friends list on Myspace and I have no clue how to do the online thing. Any tips on a great opening? and where to go from there?

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Just got this cute Mexican girl to add me to her friends list on Myspace and I have no clue how to do the online thing. Any tips on a great opening? and where to go from there?
How do you know her? Did you get her myspace because you met her somewhere? DId you just request her as a friend and she added you or what? Because that makes a lot of difference in how we'll approach this.

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Don't know her at all, but she is local to me.

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Don't know her at all, but she is local to me.
Okay that helps, so basically we're doing a cold approach online pick up. This works the same way as it would in field except obvioulsy it goes a lot slower, and you're not going to want to neg as much.

So, just like in field we need to get her attention with an opener. You can use any kind of opener you want. I know some people with start out with a neg like "I like your hair in that picture, is that a wig? Oh well, it still looks nice on you." I hear neg openers work well and have a high percentage. Also, you can use an opinion opener or pretty much whatever you'd like to start with. At some point you're going just to need to cut the thread and go on.

From there once you have her attention, you're going to start your DHV stories and/or routine stacks.

The reason I don't give you exact wording of stuff to use really is because ideally A.) You should be writing your own material. B.) If I give you my material its not congruent with who you are, and she'll figure that out. Then we'll be out of luck.

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Just a quick question J dropped an opener on this girl on myspace

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Date: 24 Jun 2008, 08:00 PM
So you're attractive, but im wondering do you have any personality?

to which i got this reply

"haha wow, ur a straight out kind of guy. to see someone's personality u hav to kno them, so without knowing someone how are u to kno their personality"


now normally i wouldnt ask id go by trial and error but she is a def 10 so wanna play it properly how would you follow that up or would you just get into a convo with her?


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now normally i wouldnt ask id go by trial and error but she is a def 10 so wanna play it properly how would you follow that up or would you just get into a convo with her?
I agree that your best bet at this point is to go into conversation. You have her attention, and she wrote back, so why not. I would stay with the being direct and to the point in the way you write to stay consistent with that opener. I'd wish you luck, but it sounds like you're doing fine. Well, you did say HB10 so GOOD LUCK!

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Hey J

I have recently added an old friend on myspace (she is a girl before you ask).

When we first met we had some love interest going on but back then i was just an AFC without the guts to do anything about it, nice guys finish last !!

Now with my new found knowledge of the game i'm thinking about how i can approach this girl and "reel her in".

Cheers dude !!

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I have recently added an old friend on myspace (she is a girl before you ask).
Did she ask about me? :lol: Just playing around...
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When we first met we had some love interest going on but back then i was just an AFC without the guts to do anything about it, nice guys finish last !!

Now with my new found knowledge of the game i'm thinking about how i can approach this girl and "reel her in".

Cheers dude !!
You're right nice guys do tend to finish last at least until they come here it seems. With your new found knowledge I think you already know how to approach her and reel her in, but you're just need reassurance. Meaning basically if you know the Attraction Phase to pick up then you're there man!

Okay, so it's a little different because she's on your myspace. She's an older friend and she views you as a "nice guy." So the game plan is obviously to get her 1 x 1 to demonstrate your new skills and attract the girl. This shouldn't be too hard because she probably remembers being comfortable with you, which is great! We just need to build attraction.

You can easily just say to her, "What's new with you? I tell you...." Then you can immediately start inserting DHV embedded material. You can create the Vibe of all is good in your world. For example something I might say if I'm in a club is...."Man I just got some great news about my book, I have my drink on, I have my groove on the dance floor, nothing could ruin this night."

This just provides you a way to DHV. You can simply just tell her what's new with you, but do it embedding DHV stuff and not bragging. If you catch what I mean here. That way you're already flipping her attraction switches early on.

It's going to be pretty easy to open her and write messages back and forth. Just don't get caught in this loop. After a few messages going back and forth as her out. When you get out, show your confidence, and flip those attraction switches.

Then move her to in person. :)

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hey

I used to be in PUA scene way back around 2000 to 2003. been in a LTR for while and thats now finished need to get my skills back. I remember back then I started out online worked on my technique then moved offline to bars etc. Anyway I used to have cocky, funny/ arrogant profiles that got some attention. Its been a while and Iv lost all the links I had to PUA resources online. One of them was a great online profile guide that worked well for me. So does anybody have this link? or other examples of online profiles for me to look at. I need to formulate something but need examples.

This is the best Iv came up with so far:

If you have major baggage or are sexually repressed or have issues with guys don't waste my time! But if your female and enjoy a challenge then be very attractive because I'm very intelligent!

I'm genuinely not impressed by looks alone and i don't kiss up to women unlike most of the sad needy jerks out their!



I think its a bit strong and has had mostly a hostile response so far.


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hey

I used to be in PUA scene way back around 2000 to 2003. been in a LTR for while and thats now finished need to get my skills back. I remember back then I started out online worked on my technique then moved offline to bars etc. Anyway I used to have cocky, funny/ arrogant profiles that got some attention. Its been a while and Iv lost all the links I had to PUA resources online. One of them was a great online profile guide that worked well for me. So does anybody have this link? or other examples of online profiles for me to look at. I need to formulate something but need examples.

This is the best Iv came up with so far:

If you have major baggage or are sexually repressed or have issues with guys don't waste my time! But if your female and enjoy a challenge then be very attractive because I'm very intelligent!

I'm genuinely not impressed by looks alone and i don't kiss up to women unlike most of the sad needy jerks out their!

I think its a bit strong and has had mostly a hostile response so far.
I agree that's a bit strong, but you're on the right track. I'd just tone that one down for the mean time. I don't have the links you're referring to. If anyone does and sees this post help us out!!! There is so much to do with profiles, depending on what type of site your on depends so much on the profile you use too.

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I need an opinion here quick...

I meet this girl online and after the second email, she is asking for my number...should I give it to her or have her work for it abit...I remember style touching on this topic abit... She is really cute and I don't want to ruin it...we already have some jokes giong on between us...here is what she wrote me...BTW...for better understanding, she asked for a pic and I told her not to worry, I have both eyes and all my teeth...she liked the humor...

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Hi Ced, I see your pic, not bad, can't tell if you have all of your teeth though, but you do have both your eyes, jk.
leave your phone# so we can talk if that is ok with you. Talk to you later.
What should I do?


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I need an opinion here quick...

I meet this girl online and after the second email, she is asking for my number...should I give it to her or have her work for it abit...I remember style touching on this topic abit... She is really cute and I don't want to ruin it...we already have some jokes giong on between us...here is what she wrote me...BTW...for better understanding, she asked for a pic and I told her not to worry, I have both eyes and all my teeth...she liked the humor...

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Hi Ced, I see your pic, not bad, can't tell if you have all of your teeth though, but you do have both your eyes, jk.
leave your phone# so we can talk if that is ok with you. Talk to you later.
What should I do?
I really don't see a reason to be ball busting or playing hard to get for the phone number. It seems like you have good rapport with her, and she's bantering with you. She's obviously comfortable with you or she wouldn't want to talk to you on the phone.

I kind of look at it like this. If you two were in person and she touched you, you might say, "Hands off the merchandise." But the second times she does it you let her. You've already done this basically with your picture. So go ahead, and give it to her! You're doing very well when she's asking you for your number. Excellent work! 8)

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Hey J

Just wondering if i could use your expert advice!!

Been messaging this girl on facebook...been going really well...even started texting and phone calls...the comfort and attraction is there but she always comes out with a couple of lines...either via text or on phone calls and i never know how to respond... She'll always say

HB " You love me don't you" or

HB " You so want me dont you"

I just freeze...cant think of a good response...are those shit tests?

Only replies are childish and i dont think they are great

"Not as much as you love me" or " I cant...i love myself too much"

She will usually come out with them if i say something nice or compliment and stuff...any ideas would be great...thanks!!


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Just wondering if i could use your expert advice!!

Been messaging this girl on facebook...been going really well...even started texting and phone calls...the comfort and attraction is there but she always comes out with a couple of lines...either via text or on phone calls and i never know how to respond... She'll always say

HB " You love me don't you" or

HB " You so want me dont you"

I just freeze...cant think of a good response...are those shit tests?

Only replies are childish and i dont think they are great

"Not as much as you love me" or " I cant...i love myself too much"

She will usually come out with them if i say something nice or compliment and stuff...any ideas would be great...thanks!!
Yes, these are shit tests, and pretty big ones at that. I know a girl that gives these to me constantly so I'm happy to oblidge on these. She's putting up a hoop for you to jump through. We kind of have to side step it and we can then put up our own hoop. Your responses were pretty good.

You can do the following.

A.) Ignore it completely
B.) Redirect the Conversation
C.) Answer B, and Put up your own shit test

To "You so want me don't you" I'd say, "You'd better buy me a few drinks and a dinner before you talk to me like that again." (putting up your own hoop)

To "You love me don't you." I'd say, "No, but you know what I do love....(go ridiculous) I love those little ice popsicle things where at the end of it you can suck out all the popsicle juice from the plastic wrapper thing."

I think you see my point here, hope it helps man.

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