i kinda have no prob negging or dhv's.... i just tend 2 do it 2 much past a point where the convo goes stale.... lol...


when do i stop!!!!!

question-

I dont know if you guys do this but im sort of new to PUA. I tried negging an old HB friend of mine and i think it came off as excessive as she found it rude and me being mean. I know negs are supposed to be playful but how do you come across as not being an ass hat when doing them? Body language I know can be used to show that a neg is playful but its a much harder thing to do online.

i have the same problem dude. Negged too much and the girl was like wtf, why are you so rude!

Happen quite a few times. Happens online mostly too when body language and jokes arent as easy to distinguish.

Im guessing negging would be negging a persons belongings but never the person themself? Now that I look at it I could have been a bit extreme.

Say the neg with a playfull voice and smile while you do it

Mystery described everything pretty well so it´s easy to understand if you read Mystery method

Don´t neg too much and remember that it takes a lot more then being a good at negging to attract a sexy girl usually

I have the mystery method. I just dont like some of his negs as they seem out dated. I just cant imagine myself scripting something like what he would consider a neg. I try to make up my own and it comes across too hard. Ill have to reread mystery's method. I have that, and the game as well as double your dating that my friend sent to me. Going to have to review them all before I forgot what they said.


Also I dont know if any of you have done this but have any of you gone on a cruise? Im going to one in a month and a half near the end of the summer in august. Im trying to practive a bit more game so that I wont have AA to talk and interact with people on the boat. 7 days at sea in a nice cruiseline.

Can anyone think of a decent opener that might work without demonstrating too much intrest to the girl?

Making up negs is really easy.. For example a C&F neg which just popped in my mind right now:

Me: Hmm, you kinda have the looks of a teletubby
HB: What? Why?
Me: No, seriously.. Place an antenna on your head and try to eat a television! It would work out great.. Then we move out to italy and make up our own restaurant named "The teletubbies"! You could be the waitress and cook while I would handle the money flow .

Opinion openers are the most greatest openers for coming under the radar.

You stop when you're unable to make it part of the conversation. i.e. a neg should be a subtle detour on a road. it shouldn't be a destination. if your conversation goes stale it means you didn't escalate properly. as by the time the conversation has a chance to go stale you should # closing or f-closing. maybe you need to slow down a bit. and remember it's always ok to make her ask you to stay but if you didn't build enough attraction that won't work. i'd say work on pulling the trigger (k-closing).

I disagree as well with the part about NOT mentioning other girls. I went on a date with a girl that I'm seeing (but playing a little cool as well) and as a story routine, told her about an ex canadian GF that I went out with but separated after that when she went back to canada. It was instant DHV as it showed preselection by other women and also showed non-neediness as I indicated to this current chick that I was very happy for this ex-gf to go on her own path and to put her own happiness ahead in front of mine. But yes, if you mention other girls, make it a subtle story telling sort of routine so that it feels like natural conversation.

The best thing i propably not to mention that she is your ex and just say her name and that you went to a party with her etc.

You can even tell her that you met this girl the other day, and she was so hot, sometimes. in general just mention girls you know and dont tell her about their relationship to you.

Seeing you being preselected by other girls that are at least as attractive as she will propably trigger more interest as well.

Bringing up stories as the above tape wallet (huh?) are beyond comfort building. At some stage you need to display vulnerability, but this is almost limited to post-sex.

So in short - fine, but there's a specific time and place.

And have a good point to it! The wallet reminds you to treat people how they deserve to be treated.

Bringing up other girls in general is also fine, but as mentioned be subtle and don't brag. You can get the point across that you have a choice of women without saying it and it will serve you much better.

I am currently interested in a girl and I have the impression that she knows that I am a womanizer.(in fact I am almost 100% sure)

I am in love with her and I would like to have her as a girlfriend but something tells me that she thinks that I am just a player and that I wouldn´t be faithfull to her

Would´t something that shows her that you are a lot more emotional and vulnerable then she thinks make her consider me as more interesting as a boyfriend?

What I will say will surprise her a lot and when the timing is right I will propably bring it up

Everyone uses their own rules, it is whatever you find comfortable. I prefer not to neg any more, if you come across as rude, it can be a DHV togirls since you feel confident enought to not care. Or it can be a DLV since you come across arrogant. It all depends on the mood, i think when learning to stay away from negs though. Just stick to DHV and teasing.

A few of these "negs" aren't though. A neg is a back handed compliment. "I like your shoes, i think my nan has a pair." "Where do i recognise you from? Your that girl from the tweenies..?"

If you can keep a straight face while saying it, and then come to a little smirk it will work well

P.S. the post above ^^

Does she give you IOI's maybe she knows what you are like but likes that about you? Just need to get across that if you find the right person, you would be faithful. Or maybe just plan a date that is really special, mlow cost, but just effort. It might work better then being vunerable.. I think it will de, but up to you

If you live alone or can organise the house to yourself, invite her around because your going to take her out. And just get a fire going, candles around your living room, a picnic blanket on your floor and some wine and cheese on toast or something.. Tell her that you have prepared a very special meal, and bring out the cheese on toast

It is just a fun, low cost date. That she will remeber.

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Thank´s for telling

She is interested and but she prefer another guy that she is more likely to be a faithfull boyfriend thats my main problem

I try not be to needy I think since she is inviting me to do stuff with her pretty often it would be much better if I just wait her out and tell her when we are alone together and it feels right.

The thing is that I cried a few weeks ago before I went to bed after being on a date with her for the simple reason that I met a guy on my way home that was looking for girls too rape or guys to robb.

I look like a guy without money and that saved me that night but if she was in my place walking alone she would have been raped that night and I know it.

In fact I actually woke up 3 hours later just to cry that I was so happy that she wasn´t the one walking alone where I was.

I will tell her everything and I hope this will change her views about me.

I already told her that I was happy that she wasn´t the one walking in my place that night since I met this creepy dude

When the moment is right I will tell her the rest, don´t you think so too?

what about stories of ur friend which has nothing to do with me..
like saying my friend got a blowjob and watever and nothing about me/

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I think the use of the neg has been misunderstood and overused. I overdid it a few times and it made me look stupid and unnatural. In fact, Mystery has stated before that one should toss his neg as just an offhanded and casual comment. It shouldn't look obvious as doing so makes u look like a try hard. Takes quite a bit of calibration as well.
As an example, I sarged a HB9 Eurasian chick wearing a cute beret on her head last wk. Just used 1 simple, well timed neg which was "I like ur hat. I think I saw another girl over there wearing it" Instant playful effect which won me an IOI.
Lesson of the story is that 1 simple, well placed neg is far more effective than 100 indiscriminately used negs.