So I hear a lot of guys talking about one-itis, and getting out of the 'friend zone.'

I guess Im just saying that if you do succeed in getting out of the 'friend zone' with that special girl. Be prepared to try to give it a shot with her because shes not just some girl you randomly picked up. This recently blew up in my face so just sharing my experience.

Care to elaborate on this?

I ask as if it blew up in your face how do you know you are out of the friend zone? Or were you just out of the zone at the wrong end?

I mean that I think I was so stuck on this one girl (one-itis) that I didnt really think it through as far as what I was really looking for. I think I may have just wanted 'it' to happen for so long, that once it did, the next step was to give it a shot. Mainly b/c it wasnt like it was just a 'hook up.' It was someone that I did care about. I think being a PUA you still are going to have various types of relationships, some of those might be friendships with women. If you approach those women the same as the rest b/c of 'one-itis,' be prepared to possibly complicate things. If she is a part of your life, shes not just someone you will spend one night with.

Im not sure thats the most complicated answer I can give...but I tried

Trevino, unfortunately it sounds like you didn't leave the friend zone at all. Her feelings just weren't replicated.

Additionally, you are suggesting that you are to "hook up" with a girl differently if you wish to pursue a relationship with her. This is incorrect. PUA tips are here to initiate a connection with someone, whether it be for one night or the rest of your life. What path you choose is completely up to you, however the logic still stands - you want to make that person attracted to you.

Also, don't try to pick up your friends - if you're interested, try at the start. Otherwise you're going to the LJBF zone by not making your intentions clear.

So how then do you break out of the LJBF zone? At some point in the game you are going to make some changes in your persona, so how do you use that to transition out of the Friends Zone.

If someone knows how to break that friend zone, you could basically put Hb's in the friend zone on reserve, build legit relationships and not have to worry about closing situation and nerves etc... or keep them around if you like them, but can't currently pursue a realtionship with them for one of various reasons.

I know HB's can be put in the friend zone and pulled out later. I've seen it happen to many times to think there isn't a method to it. So how do you do it?

I admit I don't have much experience breaking out of the friends zone with someone I've known for a long time. But from what I've heard, the only way to do it is to ignore her completely for at least a few months, then try to start fresh.

You may be right that there is a better method, but it seems unlikely to me. If you keep an alpha male frame all the time, people you've LJBF'd might still feel an attraction to you, so that's my advice. Still, I think you have to rely on luck here like an AFC, or try to start fresh.