Why in the hell did you guys bump a thread from 2006??

first off MIKE1234 you rock..

second off i totally agree with MIKE1234, if your openers arent working (ESPECIALLY if the girls think its a pickup line) that means your delivery is alllllllll wrong homie.. like MIKE1234 said man its really just acting.. you have got to body rock out and know when to roll off. Mystery does this thing where he sorta sways from left to right just subtly shifting his weight from leg to leg (this is done in A2 for those of you that know the MM model) and by doing this you can just sorta body rock out as you speak or as sheis speaking and it works very well.. try it out. But definately work on your delivery man...

I got a buddy who everytime we go sarging, as we are driving he pulls out like this 15 page printout of like 150 different openers i swear to god.. i guess hes looking for the ultimate perfect opener or something..but then when we get in field he cant remember a damn one of them... lol so the point is its not the opener itself thats failing you, its your delivery thats faulty man, try to catch yourself next time and reevaluate what your doing wrong. Mystery says keep using the same routines oover and over and over and over again so that you can determine what type of delivery works best and what doesnt work at all. that way you can have just like 1-3 openers that you totally rock at.

I didn't know where else to post this but here it is:

I was in LA at this new very posh lounge. I was near the pool where it was very crowded and an HB9 came out of nowhere and asked my friend (non pua) for a cigarette.

He doesn't smoke but i do, so he turned to me and say, "Hey this girl wants a cigarette." I give him the look like, oh noooo not again, and pretend to unwantingly take out a cigarette for the girl. I give her one and say, "Do you always smooch like this? When u go to parties, are you always stealing chips from the hosts?" something like that, she is digging it not expecting to be negged from a random guy, she is doing many ioi's, running fingers through hair, shifting her feet.

But then, my friend asks her what do you do" she says she works for some medical thing and asks her where she's from, she says she's from the oc where im from too and then, after that, he says oh me too blah blah, after that, i didn't really say anything, cuz i went blank, the convo just stopped. It was that awkward silence where you pretend to be looking at something far away and kinda smiling simultaneously, the girl is thinking probably, uhhh ok anyways....

She walked away. i dont really know what happened it all fell through so fast, man its easy to say, walk to the next girl try again, but hb9's man, they really get to you sometime...what would you guys do, i mean, would u even give her a cigarette, would you light it for her (she didnt have a lighter), where and how could i have done a better job with that one, thanks!

You've got IOI's and socail proof from being with a friend, so isolate her and get to know eachother better. If you've got the green light why, bother waiting?

Mike,

thanks for the detailed look into the 'jealous girlfriend' opener. A lot of people toss around various opening titles... and because i have NO short term memory i always forget what they are. It's nice to have one broken down so nicely - it totally reawakened my memory of the jealous girlfriend opener.

Also, more importantly, your comment about ACTING is spot on. You cant just use an opener and expect it to work, you have to act it out, sell it.

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Are you construing "going ballistic" with a shit test? If they are going ballistic from poking fun, then they clearly have serious self-esteem issues. Go figure, LA girls having self esteem issues.

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Nice man, pratice makes close to perfect

just seems like you came in to direct....

LA, I'd love to actually go sarging there...