Okay, so I have this girl that I am kinda in the 'friend zone' with. We have made out before just one time, but since then we have really gotten a bit closer. I know she has interest in me but is afraid to ruin the friendship and all that. We hung out last night and I ran game on one of her friends all night and got her number. Then on her way home we txt'd back and forth. I subtly offered for her to come stop by but she didnt bite. Then this morning she called and we talked and she said how she was just dying to get laid last night. Well I told her she should have come by then and she went into the whole 'it would be weird since we never really been together before' thing. Anyways, then I kept neggin her and giving her shit (like I always do). She loves to hate me I think. And I know she likes me to some extent but afraid to let it go there. She is taking me to lunch today and tonight I am going to see if she will come meet me at a corner bar to watch baseball game. I am thinking if she does show up tonight and its just me and her, it wont be as hard to move it forward.

So what do I do? Any tips? I know a lot of you will say Im in the 'friend zone' already and that Im screwed, but I disagree. I think with the right approach, this could work. Whose got the magic formula for this situation?

you're in constant contact wit her... if you want her to forget about her morals and the weird feelings you need to give her the opportunity to miss you... by that I mean tell her you're busy for a couple days... and she'll be dying to see you after that and if you stick to the basic negs it should be an easy f-close

Yeah, thats what I was thinking too. I guess I am doing good by constantly negging her even in our friendly situation. And I do give her a lot of kino as well. I think she knows whats up but I think you are right that I will have to let her brain think she is losing me for her to realize what she wants.

I think taking time off will be key.

When you like someone your instinct is to want to spend copious amounts of time with that person.

You need to fight this instinct along with getting a stronger frame. A strong frame will allow you to dictate what the status of the relationship is or isnt.

Best of luck.

Oh yeah and make a bunch of approaches so you realize that she isnt the only one out there.

in my experiences I have found it more fruitful to be the less sexual one, yet still force the sex issue. Instead of saying oh you should have come over to my place for sex, you should have negged her for open attitude towards sex, and said she should show some willpower. The least sexual you can make it while still pushing for your agenda the more success youw ill have.

Well, it did work to some degree. I got her to come over after a party today and we did some serious making out. She went out with girlfriends to dance tonight and i am torn as to whether to call her, txt her, or do neither. She did say she might come sleep over later. I think a late night txt maybe?