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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 8:05 am 
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Ok so back in December I got this girls number.
But I never called her cuz
A.I didn't think I was going to see her again.
B. To nervous.
Eventually I deleted the number from my phone but I couldnt stop thinking of her and I kept wondering if I'd ever see her again and today I did.
I asked for her number again,
she gave me a time constraint, she need to get her ride.
She told me, "all be in your store and again and when I am we'll make plans.

1.Do you think she'll give me here number again
2.was she serious.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 9:48 am 
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Don't take this the wrong way; in order to help you we must first point out where you're going wrong... I mean, you can't fix shit if we don't tell you what to fix. A lot of guys ask for constructive criticism and are promptly offended by it, but such is life. If you're one of those guys, hang in there and read this because it is designed with your best interests in mind... harsh as it may seem. Judging by the way you've posted this thread you seem like a pretty needy person - I may be the only one to say this but I'm not the only one thinking it. And believe me, she can see this neediness in your behaviour. You care way too much about this girl and what she thinks of you and it is affecting your outer game bigtime. I get the feeling you're like this with a lot of the girls you meet and it's something you're gonna have to exercise control over before those feelings get the better of you if you want any kind of success with women.

To put that into perspective for you, I have a friend who literally falls in love with every girl he meets and this causes him to supplicate and act like a chump in general. He disregards any advice I give him because he fears that he will lose her if he tries to take charge... thanks to this, he gets stuck in the friend zone all the damn time and even though he understands this is worse than losing her altogether he constantly falls into the same fucking trap because by that stage it's too late. I don't want you to be like this. I really don't... you need to take control of the situation before your emotions get a chance to affect your logic.

In that interaction you weren't persistent and didn't stand your ground. As a matter of fact, you exhibited the weakest behaviour possible. You said it was OK for her not to give you her number even though it takes 5 seconds to type it on your phone and you haven't seen each other in 6 months. The message was perfectly clear but if you simply took control for a couple of seconds things would have been different. I'm not gonna try to be nice about this because you won't take it on board if I sugar coat it. I know this from experience so trust me on that... I know the way you're thinking. You know that her excuse was bullshit, you just don't want to admit it because you really want it to work out with her. I can understand that, but be reasonable here. It's not gonna happen so get that shit out of your head ASAP. Take this as a learning experience and don't let it happen with any other girls in future.

From now on, if you want a girls number, you get it. No exceptions. You get what you want or you let her go, simple as that. What you have gone and done is left her in charge of everything and that is never a good thing. Now you have two choices.

1. Sit like a tool waiting to see her again so you can get her number. There is no certainty, not even a remote chance, that you'll get it next time - much less hook up with her. As a matter of fact, it doesn't even seem likely that you'll ever see her again and if you do, how are things gonna be different? You've already showed her that it's ok to give you a bullshit excuse not to give you her number so she knows that she'll be able to dodge your advances with ease next time. Reality check... you'll be wasting valuable time and exhausting your emotions by doing this. It is my professional recommendation that you choose option 2. Speaking of which, here it is.

2. Move on, sharpish. Forget about her, don't wait for her. She's not worth waiting on and you'll only be disappointed if you do. The world doesn't revolve around her, and the future of our race does not depend on you getting it right with this one girl so chalk it up as a loss and leave it.

Just as a final note... for future reference it doesn't really matter if we think a girl was serious or not. Obviously in this case we can see that she wasn't but you should have been paying attention to the signals she was giving you so you wouldn't have to rush on here and seek advice. You were there, we weren't - you should be holding the clearer picture, not us. If you got the feeling that she was bullshitting you then it's very likely that she was.

I know this isn't what you wanted to hear and you probably could have done with less emphasis on how badly you did things... but you need some shock therapy to get this into your head properly so you can see why it's so important to move on and not make the same mistakes again. In closing, I don't want to see you mention this girl again. This thread is now dedicated to helping you get some more girls to focus on and have a kickass time with. Lead the way, gentlemen.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 2:43 am 
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This is exactally what I needed to hear. Not what I wanted to hear but theres a difference.
Lately I've been doubt weather or not I'll ever get anywhere in the game, I'm needy and obsessive and theres almost nothing you can change about me if you tried, for years I tried to change things about myself but I am who I am.
Ross Jeffries says, what you dwell on is what your rehearse and you get what your rehearse. And I suppose with girls I often 'rehearse'. For example in my head I imagine super dominance, like for starters with this girl particularly I imagined us in my head and this perfect couple right after talking to her. and those images can stick in my head for months. Part of my problems is I don't take on the image of one who dosent need to know the answer, I envision super dominance.


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