After being in a few fucked up relationships I've decided to give this shit a chance. Hopefully feedback & insights from this forum can give me more success and better quality women than I have thusfar experienced.

I've read and watched and listened a lot to the guru's ranging from entertaining(Ross Jeffries) to intellectual( David Deangelo) to someone like Mystery .

I believe that success with women(at least high value women) can spill over into all other areas of your life, since I've actually achieved the opposite.

I used to have a lot of friends, composed music, went to university etc, but lacked success with women. This spilled over to other areas of my life not least mentally. Now I'm unemployed(thank god I live in Holland, plenty of food, great place to live etc), socially isolated(with the exception of a few friends) etc.

Mystery says fake it till you make it, but there are so many areas I'd have to disguise.

It's a vicious circle, lack of motivation to change coz of the situation, but at the same time not approaching women eventhough they could give me motivation to change, coz I'm worried about what to say if they ask me what I do.


Does anyone have tips to get out of this vicious circle?