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Do I completly should cut her off. Or wait on the way she reacts after this. I figured in the end I was just doing push and pull, but not as smooth as I would like to. I did some open loops and they payed off the best.. I still want my sunglasses back also!

Hope you have enough clues to atleast give me a strong opinion or suggestion how to continue this.
Booooo. Another oneitis question. I'm even exhausted from reading that entire oneitis spiel.

1. Work on gaming five or so women at a time.
2. Go out and actually SARGE so that you're constantly meeting new women.

If you did those two things, you wouldn't even ask this question. It wouldn't be a problem. And, yes, that is a STRONG opinion of mine. Oh, and GFTOW.


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Yes, ur bloody right:D

She contacted me ect ect... I just flipped the frame and told I needed a month alone to back off from the situation. I judged her, told her how I thought. her good and bad sides. Than I told what I was searching in a girl.

I am pretty sure when I start sarging and start collecting phone numbers and meet more chicks im gonna change. This fase has given me a new bright look at the situation and I just dont care that much bout her anymore.


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My "Boooo" just turned into a "HOORAY!"

Rock on, man!


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Thanks for the little push. Life is just a bit busy SPAM to just focus on my game alone. But since I opened 3 girls last weekend this has atleast given me some new beliefs and feedback. Next time I go out I will have a plan and some canned stuff to fall back to. Because last weekend there were enough opening chances. But I broke and forgot the 3 sec rule time and time again. Now im beginning to understand how important that rule is. It was just the lack of remembering sharp routines to open with. If I have those programmed I wont hold myself back :D


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Chief...excellent work man.
1.Is Tom Cruise Invincible? No. How does one go about beating a master at his own game?
2. I have seen that being compassionate and sensitive attracts good things towards a lot more towards me not just in pickup but life in general. As they say , positive thoughts attract positive energy , do you agree?


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Chief...excellent work man.
1.Is Tom Cruise Invincible? No. How does one go about beating a master at his own game?
2. I have seen that being compassionate and sensitive attracts good things towards a lot more towards me not just in pickup but life in general. As they say , positive thoughts attract positive energy , do you agree?
Tom Cruise isn't invincible? This is news to me.
A master is a master because he has mastered the basics, practicing them relentlessly. To beat him, you must use whatever is special about YOU that he doesn't possess.
Well, I actually don't know what either of us are talking about.

Anyways, as per your second question, yes, I agree wholeheartedly. As you shift your focus toward more positive things, you will start seeing more positivity in your life and you will even attract these good things to you. That's the entire message behind the movie "The Secret."

Thanks for your questions. They were really advanced. :roll: :lol:


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hey chief. Im a RAFC

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I just cant grasp the concept of using this in day game.... I read Sinn's ADVICE in Savoy's ebook where he says you should go straight to qualification after opening which I don't get. I mean you open, build attraction, comfort etc. but I can visualize attraction going well but how would you build comfort in day game. SPAM I have no choice but to day game being only 18 so I guess my question is how should I prepare in day game? If you can give me a few personal tips about day game it would most def. be appreciated. Thanks in advance :o


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hey chief. Im a RAFC

My question:

I just cant grasp the concept of using this in day game.... I read Sinn's ADVICE in Savoy's ebook where he says you should go straight to qualification after opening which I don't get. I mean you open, build attraction, comfort etc. but I can visualize attraction going well but how would you build comfort in day game. SPAM I have no choice but to day game being only 18 so I guess my question is how should I prepare in day game? If you can give me a few personal tips about day game it would most def. be appreciated. Thanks in advance :o
Tell me about a time when you actually tried Day Game. I'm not going to give any advice that condones or reinforces Keyboard Jockeying.

I'd also like you to ask a more specific question in relation to stuff that actually happened, not questions based hypothetical scenarios you project into the future out of fear.

...Incidentally, though, you caught me on a day where I was planning on going out for some Day Game sarging myself. I'm going out in a few hours, when my wing gets out of his afternoon class. Here's what I'm doing to prep myself up:

1. Figure out logistics and think about end-game
I'm actually planning on just going for number-closes and just to have fun hanging out with my wing, so I'm not planning on pulling girls back to my place today. If I were, though, I'd figure out all the logistics as to what steps I should take to lead her to the seduction location. I'd probably plan on taking the girl to a cafe for an insta-date and plant a seed for plausible deniability while throwing in a light excuse to stop by my place for a bit. Logistics are unique to the city you live in and whatever living condition or lifestyle you have, so you'll have to figure that one out for yourself. Just remember to bounce a lot.
2. Lightly prepare some Openers
I skimmed through both my mind and these forums for some Openers, both direct and indirect, that I know have worked before and for ones I've never tried before, so that I could experiment. I will not obsess over these Openers, however, and will maintain a level of spontaneity in-field.
3. Lightly prepare your Routine stack
All I did here was list a few one-liners and a few tried and tested routines that I know, covering emotional elicitation, cold reading, DHVs, qualifiers, and overall interesting conversation. I will not obsess over these routines, however, and will maintain a level of spontaneity in-field.
4. Sexual state
I don't actually do anything to prepare my sexual state. I just get into sexual state when I'm actually in-field. Some other PUAs here, such as Dalziel, actually watch porn without touching himself before going out to sarge to prep up his sexual state.
5. Feel good
Get happy. Embrace positivity.
6. Look forward to having FUN
Remember, the reason we play any game is to have FUN. The Game = FUN. :)

By the way, Sinn goes straight into qualification sometimes because he assumes attraction from the get-go. This is also why RSD people see the attraction phase as redundant. This is especially true for Day Game, as attraction is oftentimes easier to generate earlier on since women aren't actually expecting many confident, sexually-intended guys to approach them in broad daylight outside of a bar scene. This is also why some guys focus a lot more on comfort during Day Game.


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well first let me start off by apologizing... I didnt realize this was for advanced questions only lol My bad.

second yea thanks for those general tips. I guess I didnt really look into it like that. This is a great start up man thanks. I wish I could give you past exp. but Im actually going out for my first sarge with a potential wing in a few days so thanks and Ill come back here and let you know how it went :D


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Ok, so here is the upcoming situation.

Like I said above; We talked it out and I qualified her. I bought her in the frame that im the prize by doing this.

Yesterday I was on msn. And she suddenly came online and started talking if I had time the upcoming evening. (She still hase my sunglasses and I spoke to her about the fact that I want them back asap).

So ok, I told her I had to work. And friday was the best possibility. I asked her couple of days ago if the wednesday or friday is best to do this. Since she is concerened about the fact that she's losing me she asked for the upcoming nite. Because the easiest way for her would be to drop the glasses off @ my bus stop, when she comes back from work on friday. But she rather had it to give them the thursday nite. I asked if she wanted to bring them to me, she told we would meet halfway and suddenly went offline. So I told to her offline char I would be too tired to come half way to her on my bike after work.

I figured she did this to an emotional level, since she prolly does care. My question is how the counterreact to this. I figured out I best can stay passive and wait for her reaction. I figured that If she really cares she will chase me further.

The deal on friday is that I told her I maybe will be in the same bus as her since im going out in the midday. Shall I just evade this situation and let her chase? Or shall I take the same bus and act like how???


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Ok, so here is the upcoming situation.

Like I said above; We talked it out and I qualified her. I bought her in the frame that im the prize by doing this.

Yesterday I was on msn. And she suddenly came online and started talking if I had time the upcoming evening. (She still hase my sunglasses and I spoke to her about the fact that I want them back asap).

So ok, I told her I had to work. And friday was the best possibility. I asked her couple of days ago if the wednesday or friday is best to do this. Since she is concerened about the fact that she's losing me she asked for the upcoming nite. Because the easiest way for her would be to drop the glasses off @ my bus stop, when she comes back from work on friday. But she rather had it to give them the thursday nite. I asked if she wanted to bring them to me, she told we would meet halfway and suddenly went offline. So I told to her offline char I would be too tired to come half way to her on my bike after work.

I figured she did this to an emotional level, since she prolly does care. My question is how the counterreact to this. I figured out I best can stay passive and wait for her reaction. I figured that If she really cares she will chase me further.

The deal on friday is that I told her I maybe will be in the same bus as her since im going out in the midday. Shall I just evade this situation and let her chase? Or shall I take the same bus and act like how???
The way I see it, it wouldn't make a difference either way. You'll eventually get your sunglasses back sometime some how, right?

My suggestion with this girl would just be to mentally remove yourself from the situation to get a god-view of the whole thing. Know that the ball is in your court and just play around with the tension, provided that you can recognize sexual tension when you see it.

What's your goal with this girl, anyway? What do you want from her? I don't really understand why you're still letting her rattle your reality.


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My goal is to make her my GF. She just has some qualities I envy. May sound shallow... But the thruth is we both live in a bit of a shithole village near eachother. She needs my spirit and I need hers I guess. She wants to become a doctor and I want to change my life for the better of it all to a direction that most people here would never go...

Why she rocks my reality? Call it love, call it ignorant. I still do care cause of some emotional attachment. She is a church going girl and seems to have a good heart. I am sure I can have her and I would settle with that rly... My game has improved much since she knows me and she has seen me changing from a weed addict nolifer to someone who lost 10 kg, lives positive and has goals.

Its the paradox of caring while you cant show that too much at this stage. But you are right. Just have to keep a tight game and tension. Alltho I told her I wouldnt contact her for a month so thats the downside...

I do believe in PUA rules, but also in a certrain romance and passion...


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I do believe in PUA rules, but also in a certrain romance and passion...
Find the sections in which those two paths intersect. Combine them. Then you will see why pickup is an art. :wink:


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Ya ur rite. Im being a little bitch this way. By playing more girls at same time oneitis will just go away. And yes, building the right tension with PUA stuff will give you an open door to love and romance just cause chicks dig that.


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Throughout my past during pickups, relationships, friendships, and fuck buddies there have been times where they insult you. A flat out flash of fucking anger.
" You're so fucking annoying, You're a dumbshit, Gawd leave me alone, Shut the fuck up" ect. Those insults that literally come out of thin air over the smallest things. Literally, it raises out of nothing, like a simple question or a statement that asks them to repeat a question, there was bad frequency over the cellphone. What do they mean? Whats the best way to handle them? I know it varies per person/pick up/and relationship but there has to be a general rule on what you should do. I know one thing not to do is take it personally and let it affect your state but it does. I feel lame and pathetic when things like this occur and bug me because I feel like I did nothing wrong but they lash it on me. And no, its not their period.

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