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this is so confusing man, i love to spend time with her 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. but the core of all this PU is not to telegraph too much interest, show a willingness to walk away, show that u have other girls (pre selection), and thats what i did. she thinks i dont love her.

how do i strike a balance.??
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tell me, how do you "never supplicate, maintain dominance" without come off as an inconsiderate asshole??

how will they know if you love them, if you do a little favour they request, it's not always a test.


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tell me, how do you "never supplicate, maintain dominance" without come off as an inconsiderate asshole??

how will they know if you love them, if you do a little favour they request, it's not always a test.
I don't think it is too difficult. Most people have a sort of internal meter that knows when they are being dominated and when they are just doing something that is nice.

If she says please or thank you when you do something for her, or if she gives a reason for why.

The operant term is "approval seeking behavior". You should be doing things of your own choice because you want to do them, not because they are somehow expected of you. Taking your girlfriend on a horse-drawn carriage ride around a lake or surprising her with flowers at work isn't supplicating because you are doing it because you WANT to. On the flip side, if she said, "You never bring me flowers at work", don't bring her flowers the next day, because you are just doing what she asked.

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She began to find you boring you stopped "acting" alpha. One reason why that relationship failed, lack of inner game.

Ok this is one of the reasons I am a bit dissapointed in a lot of PUA's from my generation. (as in those who have joined up during the past year or so)

PICK UP.

It's not about adopting a persona. It's not about psuednyms. It's not about preset word for word lines. It's not about acting.

Pick up is about having a rebirth, its a complete developement of the soul, to the point where YOU become fun, YOU become alpha, YOU become attractive, YOU BECOME SEXY.

I know I've changed, I can feel it. Certain people I used to hang out with, I no longer do. Because I've noticed that their fucking boring and that they were just dragging me down, I have changed, I have become something better.

And it will happen to you.

Now you are free to sarge away, personnaly I'm not a fan of multiple LTR's, but now you can work on your inner game, your transformation can really take place.


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haha, i been trying to act ALPHA all these time, this pissed her and all her friends off as i did not supplicated to her. she told me after we broke up that her friends thinks i am mean towards her. im not myself anymore, i cant f***ing show my truely feeling towards her, i love this girl to death, yet i force myself to be uncaring, not putting her on the pedestal, i hardly said "i love you" to her even thought i really want to.
she thinks im asshole who does not care about her feelings, does not care and does not love her. now she's going out with some other dude now and it really hurt me.

yes, if it wasnt for MM i would never have picked her up, but it's also MM concept that destroyed it, for that i am really pissed. sometimes traditional dating works better.
also social skills should always come before pick up skills.


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haha, i been trying to act ALPHA all these time, this pissed her and all her friends off as i did not supplicated to her. she told me after we broke up that her friends thinks i am mean towards her. im not myself anymore, i cant f***ing show my truely feeling towards her, i love this girl to death, yet i force myself to be uncaring, not putting her on the pedestal, i hardly said "i love you" to her even thought i really want to.
she thinks im asshole who does not care about her feelings, does not care and does not love her. now she's going out with some other dude now and it really hurt me.

yes, if it wasnt for MM i would never have picked her up, but it's also MM concept that destroyed it, for that i am really pissed. sometimes traditional dating works better.
also social skills should always come before pick up skills.
The fact that you ACTED alpha shows that you didn't take in what PU or MM is trying to teach you. You were to rigid with the model, relied to heavily on outer game, and were not able to establish the difference between a quick lay "MM" and relationship "MM + opening up and being yourself* with her"

*note that this will be your refined self that MM created, not another fake personna or the AFC you.


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See thats the thing, you have to create a balance. Theres a difference between being an asswipe and an alpha. And it varies per girl.

A big part of being an alpha and keeping a LTR going is push and pull. Treat her with affection, be passionate, but dont always give in. That does not mean be a dickwad to her. You get it? Push-Pull. That's alpha, I made the same mistake a lot by just being a cold hearted prick and it just pushes her away. Not everything is set by rules and should be followed. Sometimes you just know whats right and what you have to do.

She's probably feeling lousy herself, but she's prepared to move on because all her friends support the breakup and those ideas feed her motivation. So. Make a phone call to her and tell her how you honest to God feel. Tell her your sorry, you made a mistake and you acted the way you did to try and impress her and that you want to stay friends because you will love her.

To me, that kind of shit is what she wants to hear. And if that's how you feel tell her. Don't wait any longer. Remember, people avoid pain and go towards pleasure, so keep the conversation light and humorous and tell her how you feel. Best of luck.

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