THIS IS PRETTY LONG BUT PLZ HELP ME TO GET BETTER
THNKS
PunkStarrearea51 is mee

HER (11:15:57 PM): hey
punkstarrarea51 (11:16:04 PM): hey :]
HER (11:16:27 PM): hey idk if i can hang on weds my grandparents are going to be in town
punkstarrarea51 (11:16:37 PM): oh really?
punkstarrarea51 (11:16:57 PM): when are they coming?
HER (11:17:17 PM): monday
HER (11:17:49 PM): sorry :[
punkstarrarea51 (11:18:06 PM): its alright.. we got the whole summer
HER (11:18:22 PM): yess :]
punkstarrarea51 (11:18:36 PM): and when ar they leaving?
HER (11:18:42 PM): idk
punkstarrarea51 (11:19:21 PM): i guess anytimee after ur grandparents leavee
HER (11:19:29 PM): yeah
HER (11:19:32 PM): *** is here
HER (11:19:36 PM): remember her?
punkstarrarea51 (11:19:44 PM): oh, from ***`s partay?
HER (11:19:50 PM): yupp
punkstarrarea51 (11:20:00 PM): i think i do,,
HER (11:20:24 PM): yeah well shes here and she says hi
punkstarrarea51 (11:20:41 PM): ,,haha tell her i said hi back
HER(11:20:54 PM): lol
HER (11:21:03 PM): she says she sees u riding ur bike everywhere
punkstarrarea51 (11:21:16 PM): haha,,my ole back
punkstarrarea51 (11:21:20 PM): it used to be pink
HER (11:21:32 PM): nice lmao
punkstarrarea51 (11:21:53 PM): then i sprayed paint it bcuz i went to super target with it and these guys thought i was like gay
punkstarrarea51 (11:22:02 PM): and they start hitting on me lol
HER (11:22:08 PM): ew lmao
punkstarrarea51 (11:22:18 PM): not a good experiencee lol
HER (11:22:38 PM): im sure
HER (11:22:38 PM): lol
punkstarrarea51 (11:22:45 PM): lol
HER (11:22:47 PM):
punkstarrarea51 (11:23:16 PM): hold on brb
HER (11:23:29 PM): kay
punkstarrarea51 (11:30:09 PM): ok im backk :]
HER (11:30:55 PM): yay :]
HER (11:31:01 PM): lol
punkstarrarea51 (11:31:04 PM): haha
punkstarrarea51 (11:31:20 PM): ok im like facing a small problemm rite noww
punkstarrarea51 (11:31:37 PM): like my band wants to kik our drummer out
HER (11:31:39 PM): hmm?
HER (11:31:43 PM): ohh
punkstarrarea51 (11:31:49 PM): and hes like my best friend but i dont know waht to say to him
punkstarrarea51 (11:32:00 PM): i really dont want to hurt his feelings
HER (11:32:05 PM): *****?
punkstarrarea51 (11:32:09 PM): yup
HER (11:32:13 PM): ohh :/
punkstarrarea51 (11:32:19 PM): do u have any ideaa
punkstarrarea51 (11:32:39 PM): to be honest he kinda suckss but he`s a good friendd
HER (11:33:18 PM): uhm. well idk just say uhm the band is thin king about kicking you out but if you improve then maybe we will think about it?
HER (11:33:19 PM): idk
HER (11:33:32 PM): thinking*
punkstarrarea51 (11:33:37 PM): haha
HER (11:33:40 PM): idk
punkstarrarea51 (11:33:53 PM): do u know *********?
HER (11:34:18 PM): mhm
punkstarrarea51 (11:34:53 PM): no? well we`re replacing lucas with himm but i thought u might know him
punkstarrarea51 (11:34:58 PM): anyway how do u know *****?
HER (11:35:29 PM): known him from a while ago, our families are friends
HER (11:35:31 PM): and hahaha
HER (11:35:36 PM): my friend thinks
HER (11:35:40 PM): nevermind
punkstarrarea51 (11:35:43 PM): oh lol
punkstarrarea51 (11:35:44 PM): i c
punkstarrarea51 (11:36:04 PM): then i shouldnt have told u about him being kiked out lol
HER(11:36:16 PM): i dont talk to him much
HER (11:36:23 PM): and i woudldnt say anything
punkstarrarea51 (11:36:24 PM): ohh ok
punkstarrarea51 (11:36:32 PM): phhs dont worry i trust ya :]
HER (11:36:50 PM): good :]
punkstarrarea51 (11:39:02 PM): hey whens ur next b-day, just curiosityy
HER (11:39:36 PM): july 25th
punkstarrarea51 (11:39:46 PM): so its coming up huh
HER (11:40:18 PM): mhm :]
punkstarrarea51 (11:41:15 PM): if u had anything for ur b-day what would it be,, even the impossibless, lol this doesnt mean that im gonna get u whateva u want haha
HER (11:42:11 PM): a poem written just about me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
punkstarrarea51 (11:42:33 PM): hahaa thats little but i bet it means lot to u
HER (11:43:08 PM): yeah i've always wanted something liken that
punkstarrarea51 (11:43:40 PM): i dont think i`ve mention this before but ima poemist lol
HER (11:43:50 PM): no way
HER (11:43:59 PM): so you can write a poem about me!
punkstarrarea51 (11:44:09 PM): i love shakespear and anything to do with love poems.lol
punkstarrarea51 (11:44:14 PM): of coarse lol
HER (11:44:41 PM): aww your a mushy gushy guy
punkstarrarea51 (11:44:51 PM): lol haha
punkstarrarea51 (11:45:09 PM): heres one i found off my journall
HER (11:45:15 PM): okay
punkstarrarea51 (11:45:28 PM): im just gonna copy paste out of my word
punkstarrarea51 (11:45:32 PM): here it goess
HER (11:45:33 PM): okay
punkstarrarea51 (11:45:45 PM): Some say the world will end in fire
Some say 'twill end in ice.
From what I've tasted of desire,
I hold with those who favour fire,
That fire within your eyes.
punkstarrarea51 (11:46:17 PM): i think i wrote that one after someone died lol
HER (11:46:50 PM): *** said she think shes heard that somewhere
punkstarrarea51 (11:46:59 PM): phhhs
punkstarrarea51 (11:47:09 PM): ask her where?
HER (11:47:44 PM): she says idk it just sounds familar
punkstarrarea51 (11:47:45 PM): becuase this is a abba pattern sonnet
HER (11:47:51 PM): what?
HER (11:47:52 PM): lmao
punkstarrarea51 (11:47:56 PM): nvm
punkstarrarea51 (11:48:01 PM): its something u`ll learn lol
punkstarrarea51 (11:48:18 PM): i also use poem as lyrics too so
punkstarrarea51 (11:48:24 PM): do u write any poems?
HER (11:48:34 PM): sure
HER (11:48:36 PM): no'
HER (11:48:38 PM): i dont
punkstarrarea51 (11:48:58 PM): haha oh, so u like them but dont wanna write them?
HER (11:49:47 PM): nope :]
HER (11:49:48 PM): well
HER (11:49:52 PM): im good at writing them
HER (11:50:02 PM): i just sit down and write them as a hobbie
punkstarrarea51 (11:50:15 PM): so u do write themm :]
HER (11:50:24 PM): kinda
HER (11:50:33 PM): heres one
punkstarrarea51 (11:50:39 PM): ok :]
HER (11:51:01 PM): doesith thy hair look so cute
HER (11:51:20 PM): hesith he wonderfulith?
HER (11:51:29 PM): i was kidding
HER (11:51:33 PM): lmao!
punkstarrarea51 (11:51:46 PM): lol
punkstarrarea51 (11:51:50 PM): that was good but funny
punkstarrarea51 (11:51:56 PM): with that -ith
punkstarrarea51 (11:51:57 PM): lol
punkstarrarea51 (11:52:06 PM): LOLith
HER (11:52:11 PM): hahaha im cryingith
punkstarrarea51 (11:52:15 PM): hahaha
HER (11:52:39 PM): i was laughing soooo hard
HER (11:52:40 PM): no here
punkstarrarea51 (11:52:47 PM): lol
punkstarrarea51 (11:52:56 PM): i could imagine :[
punkstarrarea51 (11:52:59 PM): arg
punkstarrarea51 (11:53:00 PM): :]
punkstarrarea51 (11:53:14 PM): my keyboard is way to asian argg
punkstarrarea51 (11:53:22 PM): its giving off sad facess
HER (11:53:33 PM): okay... heres one
punkstarrarea51 (11:53:49 PM): ok im listening :]
HER (11:54:17 PM): does he know this side of me?
HER (11:54:20 PM): im a freak
HER (11:54:26 PM): and hes so sweer
HER (11:54:30 PM): sweet*
HER (11:54:35 PM): i hate it so
HER (11:54:43 PM): i tell him go go go
punkstarrarea51 (11:54:49 PM): haha
HER (11:54:55 PM): no im just playing again
HER (11:55:02 PM): and as you can tell...
punkstarrarea51 (11:55:04 PM): i can see that
punkstarrarea51 (11:55:06 PM): lol
HER (11:55:11 PM): i do NOT write poems
punkstarrarea51 (11:55:16 PM): haha
punkstarrarea51 (11:55:20 PM): nice try though
punkstarrarea51 (11:55:37 PM): i think im going to use "go go go" lol
HER (11:56:19 PM): why?
punkstarrarea51 (11:56:30 PM): idk
punkstarrarea51 (11:56:37 PM): it kinda sounded funny to mee
HER (11:56:47 PM): i no
HER (11:56:49 PM): me too
punkstarrarea51 (11:58:18 PM): hey tell you what
punkstarrarea51 (11:59:17 PM): i`ll write u a really good poem for u, for ur b-day if i get to know u becuase first of all i need to get to know u much more to write u a poem...
HER (12:00:44 AM): ***ith
HER (12:00:57 AM): you got yourself a deal
punkstarrarea51 (12:01:01 AM): lol
punkstarrarea51 (12:01:04 AM): 'suree
punkstarrarea51 (12:01:14 AM): July ** u say?
HER (12:01:47 AM): yeah
HER (12:01:58 AM): but i was kidding about thw whole poem thing
punkstarrarea51 (12:02:03 AM): i know,lol
punkstarrarea51 (12:02:07 AM): dont worry about it
punkstarrarea51 (12:02:24 AM): i`ll take it as a humour related
HER (12:02:40 AM): no please dont write one
HER (12:02:47 AM): you dont have to do that
punkstarrarea51 (12:02:50 AM): lol
punkstarrarea51 (12:02:51 AM): what?
punkstarrarea51 (12:03:04 AM): haha
HER (12:03:23 AM): dont write anything for my birthday. i was kidding
punkstarrarea51 (12:03:28 AM): lol
punkstarrarea51 (12:03:32 AM): okith
HER (12:03:43 AM): goodith
punkstarrarea51 (12:05:46 AM): hey let me know when ur grandparents leave next week!
HER (12:06:03 AM): okay
punkstarrarea51 (12:06:35 AM): haha, my mom think braces are magic lol
punkstarrarea51 (12:07:07 AM): she just came up to me and said that
HER (12:07:33 AM): weird
punkstarrarea51 (12:07:40 AM): i know rite
punkstarrarea51 (12:08:15 AM): hey wat classes do u have next year?
HER(12:08:36 AM): idk
HER (12:08:39 AM): freshmen classes
punkstarrarea51 (12:08:52 AM): didnt u get the sheet with ur classes in it
HER (12:09:01 AM): yeah
punkstarrarea51 (12:09:41 AM): u know, i notice something about you, i`ll tell u in a moment
punkstarrarea51 (12:10:23 AM): anyway u dont know?
HER (12:10:54 AM): well i have math science english gym chorus study hall and foods 1-2 i think
HER (12:11:00 AM): but whats it you notice?
punkstarrarea51 (12:11:31 AM): ur very convincing lol
HER (12:11:41 AM): about what?
punkstarrarea51 (12:12:01 AM): ur very convincing with wordss
punkstarrarea51 (12:12:11 AM): u tell me something and i believe it lol
HER (12:12:22 AM): oh i trick justin all the time
punkstarrarea51 (12:12:26 AM): why am i so drawn towards you?
punkstarrarea51 (12:12:28 AM): lol
HER (12:12:44 AM): your drawn to me?
HER (12:12:51 AM): what are you hitting on me?
punkstarrarea51 (12:13:56 AM): put it this way I enjoy getting to know a woman who is intelligent, natural, and who has a child-like curiosity for life. And when I meet such a woman, I would want to enjoy all that life has to offer together with her. And for me there is nothing finer then feeling that incredible connection with someone that you feel so very close to.
punkstarrarea51 (12:14:17 AM): simpl?
HER (12:14:27 AM): i just met you?
HER (12:14:33 AM): im child like
HER (12:14:35 AM): nice :]
punkstarrarea51 (12:14:42 AM): lol
punkstarrarea51 (12:15:22 AM): i think thats y im so drawn by ur energy lol
HER (12:15:31 AM): uhm alright?
punkstarrarea51 (12:15:43 AM): beauty is very common
punkstarrarea51 (12:16:02 AM): guys like me look for good personality, good energy and great outlooks
punkstarrarea51 (12:16:47 AM): just 3 things nothing else
punkstarrarea51 (12:16:52 AM): hbu?
punkstarrarea51 (12:17:00 AM): do u have any theoriess? ;p;
HER (12:17:10 AM): uhm
HER (12:17:11 AM): idk
punkstarrarea51 (12:17:29 AM): well u must have something in ur mind
punkstarrarea51 (12:17:43 AM): its not like u were born yesterday LOL
HER (12:18:00 AM): uhm i like trust
HER (12:18:02 AM): and
HER (12:18:13 AM): outgoingness
punkstarrarea51 (12:18:28 AM): so what feelings do u get when ur around that kind of guy
HER (12:18:37 AM): friend
punkstarrarea51 (12:18:52 AM): friend?
HER (12:18:59 AM): mhm
HER (12:19:06 AM): i first fell like there my friend
punkstarrarea51 (12:19:19 AM): ahh
punkstarrarea51 (12:19:29 AM): being closerr in another words
HER (12:19:48 AM): yeah
HER (12:19:49 AM): okay
HER (12:19:54 AM): let me ask you somehting
punkstarrarea51 (12:19:56 AM): ok i undersatnd
HER (12:19:57 AM): thing*
punkstarrarea51 (12:19:57 AM): ok
HER (12:20:13 AM): do you like me or something?
punkstarrarea51 (12:20:21 AM): sure y not
punkstarrarea51 (12:20:25 AM): attraction is not a choice
punkstarrarea51 (12:20:38 AM): its human naturee, remember
HER (12:21:12 AM): wait so being drawn to a person is different then liking someone? your asian mind is confusing me
HER (12:21:16 AM): lol
punkstarrarea51 (12:21:19 AM): LOL
punkstarrarea51 (12:21:29 AM): isnt it the same thing?
HER (12:21:40 AM): idk thats why i was asking you
punkstarrarea51 (12:22:07 AM): i thought drawn meant to "wanting to know more"
punkstarrarea51 (12:22:33 AM): or something thats pulling towards u
punkstarrarea51 (12:22:59 AM): so if i said draw the cup near me
punkstarrarea51 (12:23:10 AM): doesnt that mean get that cup to me?
HER (12:23:18 AM): so you want more of me? awkward
punkstarrarea51 (12:23:42 AM): relativley speaking it means that i want to know u more and get closer
HER (12:24:07 AM): oh. so your curious? hahaha weird
punkstarrarea51 (12:24:37 AM): haha i dont know how u put it like
punkstarrarea51 (12:24:41 AM): that
punkstarrarea51 (12:25:24 AM): i thought everyone gets curious when someone is interested in another one
HER (12:25:31 AM): oh
HER (12:25:33 AM): alright
HER (12:25:35 AM): lol
punkstarrarea51 (12:26:48 AM): is *** still there?
HER (12:26:58 AM): no
punkstarrarea51 (12:27:25 AM): o i was going to ask her somethingg
HER (12:27:40 AM): what i will tell her tomorrow
punkstarrarea51 (12:27:47 AM): no its nothingg
HER (12:27:52 AM): please tell me
HER (12:27:54 AM): haha
punkstarrarea51 (12:27:55 AM): lol
punkstarrarea51 (12:27:58 AM): ok
punkstarrarea51 (12:28:05 AM): see ur so convincing lol
HER (12:28:10 AM): hehehe ;]
punkstarrarea51 (12:28:14 AM): arrgg
punkstarrarea51 (12:29:35 AM): i was going to ask her to not to interrupt with my poem??
punkstarrarea51 (12:29:36 AM): lol
punkstarrarea51 (12:30:05 AM): wait damn, i forgot how she looked likee..
HER (12:30:13 AM): what?
punkstarrarea51 (12:30:21 AM): is she the one with brown hair?
HER (12:30:25 AM): mhm
punkstarrarea51 (12:30:35 AM): ok i got the right person
HER (12:30:38 AM): but what do you mean. innterupt your poem?
punkstarrarea51 (12:31:14 AM): haha well that poem was sorta for u to read
punkstarrarea51 (12:31:18 AM): not Liz
HER (12:31:38 AM): oh. well i went to the bathroom and she was at the computer
HER (12:31:39 AM): im sorry
punkstarrarea51 (12:31:45 AM): oh
punkstarrarea51 (12:31:48 AM): lol
punkstarrarea51 (12:32:03 AM): dont worryy, its not somekind of secret or anything
HER (12:32:09 AM): oh lol
punkstarrarea51 (12:32:41 AM): i can pretty much trust u on most of part
punkstarrarea51 (12:34:11 AM): well, im gonnna go to bed
HER (12:34:18 AM): alright
punkstarrarea51 (12:34:20 AM): i`ll ttyl
HER (12:34:20 AM): night
punkstarrarea51 (12:34:24 AM): bye <3
HER (12:34:27 AM): byee

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1stly dude we need a background of how you met and stuff like that...and its long lol, wont be able to read it till later. from the little i have red it seems a little AFC in some of your responses, like "it use to be pink" why you taking the piss out of yourself for?

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Well, that's all I need to see. She said she couldn't hang out on WEDNESDAY and her grandparents are in town on MONDAY. Hello... that means she has 2 full days to catch up with them, it's not like you're meeting her on the day they're arriving and really want to see her that day. I should also point out that her grandparents probably come to visit every summer and she knew they were coming long before you made those plans. Do you really think they expect her to stay in her house and entertain them the whole time they're there? Wake up... I would call her on that shit and give her one chance after that. She made a commitment to spend time with you, now she's gone and disrespected your time with a seriously lame excuse and you still stayed online to talk to her for an HOUR. I guarantee you she springs something up last minute about the grandparents again next time you plan to meet up.

Oh yeah, and what the fuck is this?
Is that a heart? She's not your girlfriend, so don't do that. Ever again. Stop being so damn nice. And stop rewarding her for disrespecting your time. Where is the logic in that? You're supposed to punish her when she does shit like that to let her know you don't tolerate that kind of SPAM. Saying "oh its fine we have all summer, its ok if you shit on me just this one time" then being all nice and friendly and using up all that conversation material you could have saved for your day out together is the WORST thing you could have done. Now she thinks you're a really nice guy and it'll be easy to get out of having to meet up with you because you won't give her shit about it and that you'll stop asking eventually.

Instead of talking to her for an hour after her making an excuse to cancel your plans you should have said it was cool, thank her for letting you know, and that you're gonna go make other plans. Then you should have changed your status to appear offline so you wouldn't have to talk to her any more. You are supplicating to her needs and she has you chasing her, when she should be the one chasing you.

what the fuck is this shit? this is the some sappy, mushy shit right here. she has you eating out of the palm of her hands. if she says "roll over and play dead" i wouldnt be suprised if you did. if you ask me this whole conversation is rank and you should probably toss the bitch and cut her out of your life.

first off, she wanted a poem. you're mindset should be "you dont get a fucking poem unless i get what i want from you". second, dont EVER, EVER compliment her.

For the whole grandparents thing, you shouldve basically said, oh well thats too bad. i had awesome plans, i guess ill have to take this person instead. she's always there for me.

she doesnt deserve a heart, a poem, or your time so dont fucking give it too her.

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seriously dude the second another guy with game comes along she's gunna ditch you ( if she was even gunna be with you in the first place) plus it sounds as if she's younger than you? you should have had her at hello

Dude, no offense, but that is possibly the most AFC thing I have ever read on these forums. From the start of the conversation she had you doing whatever you wanted for her, you sent her a poem? What the fuck was that about.

There really wasn't a single definitive IOI in this conversation, and the reason for that is basically you are her bitch. You need to make sure she knows you are the prize, not her. She has to work to get you and should be honoured that she gets a conversation with you.

After she blew you off for her Grandparents you stayed and talked to her for an hour, I would have been off, telling her I was out with my friends, or some other girl. You used a semi-opener, about beauty being common, but you were so deep in shit by then it wouldn't have worked on an HB2.

You shouldn't be complimenting her or sucking up to her by saying how much she interests you, how close you want to get with her etc. Thats all bullshit, don't do any of that stuff again. You don't compliment until you get some clear signs on interest from her. This girl wants a real man, not some pussy that sends her poetry on demand and sends a heart at the end of the conversation.

You need to work on your inner game, know you are the prize and not her. Go out, sarge a few girls, hell, work some online game on a few other girls. Get some social proof by making plans with other girls that you know.

The good news - you can only improve from her, it cannot get much worse.

- SC

Infuckntense! geeez. awesome advice though, wish you'd help me out!

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AIM does not constitute as a FIELD. Stop dwelling in your comfort zone and get out of the house.

And try not to talk about your band with girls. It makes it seem like you're trying to impress her. If you are saying, "I can't not talk about my band with girls, Chief! If I do that, how else am I going to show girls that I'm a cool guy?" then I suggest you quit your band and rejoin it only after you get to stop relying on statuses and other external sources for self-validation.

I'm a guitarist and I've been in a few performing bands before, so I know exactly what I'm talking about.

ANY idea how to fucking fix this up??

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Your goals are set in the wrong places. A PUA improves himself instead of fixing each and every situation. It's more efficient that way.

The real solution you need is to GFTOW.

fuck man, theres an actual turning point in the conversation where you can see where it starts to go downhill. its too personal/deep this early in your relationship as it sounds. and that poem? seriously man, you took a page right out of the book from robert frost, an infamous poet. i havent read one of his poems in 3 years and your first 2 lines gave it away instantly. if youre going to steal material at least take it from something few people have heard of, (also the problem with canned lines these days). i suppose the convo started out alright, but eventually it was clear that you lost ground and she lost interest and got weirded out. its evident when youre doing all the talking and shes giving one word answers and sarcastic remarks despite the effort youre putting into the conversation. your best bet would have just been to cut the shit as soon as you saw the turning point instead of trying to redeem/save yourself right there on the spot. i dont know what your status is with this girl but from the looks of your post its not looking too hot. your best bet is just to cut off ties and then make some other honey

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