these guys have game? the fuck? this is a fuckin disgrace. hahaha absolutely horrible.

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Unless your only gonna bang drunk chicks and/or sluts, yes, of course you do.

Being good looking only gives you attraction. You still need to use game to get comfort and seduction.

Is it easier for the good looking? Yes, but you still need game. I know a good number of guys who could easily be models, but they lack any confidence and personality whatsoever, a couple of them are still in possession of their v-cards.[/quote]

I have met so many people like that. Seeing people who are very good looking be self-conscious, just proves how untrue our limiting thoughts actually are.

I totally agree with everything that was said here about attarctive men failing with women for lack of confidence, self-esteem, ect. with the exception of the first part. There is a lot of confusion on the subject of attraction.

When a woman sees a physically attractive man; if she is walking down the street and sees a man with model looks just in passing but never meeting she becomes aroused much in the way a man does. It is not attraction at this point but arousal. Men are genreally willing to have sex purely on arousal and women (more often than not) will need to be attracted to a guy to feel comfortable with having sex.

- Chris

Excellent point , PUAs need to catch the thin line between the concepts of arousal and attraction .
To cut the long story short :- Arousal = By looks , Attraction = By Personality. Get it? So stop worrying about the way you look you guys . You did not ask God to make you look how so ever you may look , so why hold yourself responsible or self-conscious for something which was not even a choice or in your control?
Seriously , get over it don't act so juvenile about this issue , kids in elementary care about looks , we men care about Game and only Game because Looks only get the Smiles while Game gets the Girl.

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I like your concepts but that is not to say looks don't matter. I do agree that it's not worth a damn worrying or complaining about looks; work with what you got, not what you don't because all you can do is your personal best with what's currently availiable to you.

Overall though this is another gray area the community doesn't emphasize heavily enough because playing the equality card makes it easier for them to make money. If you spark a woman's arousal with your looks she WANTS you to generate attraction which makes things much easier for the good looking guy.

Being brutally honest the "gurus" want you to believe average or ugly guys have as good a chance as good looking guys which they don't. Lucky for us however, looks are not the final foot down like they are with women; an ugly girl has no chance whereas a guy can get a woman as attractive as he wants.

If Mr. A and Mr. B had idential personalies but Mr. A was more attractive the woman would chose him. The reason for this is because when a woman sees a man on the street that is attractive she already places a certain degree of investment, hope and willingness that this guy will have the personality she is looking for and therefore be open to being seduced from the moment she sees him on a street corner.

If you're handsome you don't have alpah status you have a better shot than a guy who is ugly. An ugly guy with no alpha status is like an ugly woman whereas a good looking guy women will really press with because they want to be seduced by him more. Basically If you don't have looks you don't need them but you better have alpha status.

With an average looking guy a woman is not even caring or thinking about this until the guy conveys alpha status at which point the woman will become open to his advances as well.

If you are not good looking but you know how to carry yourself as an alpha male you can take a woman off the arm of a good looking man any day. It's not vanity; everyone wants their sexual needs satisfied and everyone likes to know that they have an edge. The "gurus" will only tell you looks don't matter because it makes a wider audience believe that they need $6000 boot camps more.

- Chris

I think this post is great because we all have to realize that looks DO matter and it is simple-minded to think otherwise.

That being said, it is not the be-all-end-all or none of us would be members of this forum.

But we also shouldnt kid ourselves about the inherent advantage of being attractive.

stupid pointless bullcrap, nothing but a bunch of stupid jokes telling you to be like then when theres no way you could ever be like any of them.

lol this was so funny...i didn't even like that matador guy he seemed so edgy but i guess it somehow works for him...

Josh is kinda like me

Whats awesome about Matador is all the kino he uses right away, touching her shoulder, cheek to cheek, etc. When someone touches you, whether you like it or not, a lot of subconcious attention is channeled to that person.
He is also lucky it was loud in the club. When there is a lot of noise there is less discomfort when he leans in and talks in their ear. When I have a chance to do this I talk more softly and drawn out and sort of force more air out of my mouth on vowels and make my S's hiss in the the chicks ear, but not creepily noticable. Then draw back, then do it again, ANTICIPATION, they love it!

That is pure natural game and confidence.

dude, i just looked at his intro and knew he was a natural. he was just born with game.

he probably never read any books... probably had some females doing his work ehehe.

this all seems so fake and scripted, I dunno about anyone else but it seems that way.

id love if for one episode they had to go up against mystery/style someone like that etc just because it would be so damn funny. ok sure the guy is confident/cocky/good looking but lets look at it:

- number closes ... are they even real? we cant tell
- k-close ... ok but look at what happened! stole the girl/calmed the fight talk about DHVs

he is sure a natural but id like to see more sets from this guy, there appears to be a lot more episodes ill have a look and see what i can find

That video was great...

The black guy did everything wrong. I think instead of focusing on what the white guy did.

Lets Take a look at what the other guy did wrong.

He came on too strong to the first girl and he had her intrest with the opener. I think he needed to qualify himself... anything to get her to say a few words.

Then you have the one where he tells a woman what is wrong with her.
He blatently lies... and baggers her for her number? All wrong.

The last one was the best he seems to try again with the telling a girl what is wrong with what she is wearing. Then he goes on to tell all her friends the same thing. He opens the set then doesnt go anywhere. Then when she locks him out he just goes to another girl in the set and all three lock him out badly. The lesson I would learn about this is learn when to walk away.

I think when you compare this to someone who is good its a great learning material. What not to do... follows by how to use your personality to pick up girls. I would definitly recommend.