Hi, I don’t know if this question belongs here or even this forum but I would like you guys, the pros, to help me if possible.

As a note girl is 19 years old and I am 23 though quite inexperienced.

I started chatting (MSN with cam) with this girl 3 months ago. All went well and she became really interested in me, and so did I in her. We chatted a lot, on average 1-2h a day. Let me just say that she probably isn’t some HB10 or 9 just a regular girl I would say (and I am no looker myself).

Anyway, we live quite far from each other and didn’t manage to meet until 4 days ago. She came to me (she promised like 1,5 months ago so I let her come here) and at start all seemed ok but I kind of felt she is colder then she was over MSN and not so responsive. After some time we got in a room but she was tired and sleepy. I lay next to her and kissed her but she was not responding for some time (she was like half asleep).

After that she took shower and seemed in much better mood. Things started to heat up, she started responding but after I kissed her at one point on the neck she reacted, curled up and turned away from me, that’s where I stopped. We watched some pictures, got dressed and went to some party.

After some time she got SMS telling her that her grandmother died and that she needs to get home. That sms crushed me, I immediately thought of it as an getaway if things didn’t workout well. I didn’t talk much and didn’t do much for the rest of the evening. We got back to room and she took a shower and said she wants to sleep. I did the same but she wanted me to hug her, she pressed against me and insisted on that for an hour while she was somehow aware if I wasn’t doing that. She went home in the morning but it all seemed quite cold, more like we were friends. I even gave her a gift I had for her which she just peaked at and kissed me.

After that she kept messaging me but again more like a friend. Tomorrow morning we talked over msn again and she acted as if nothing happened. She didn’t even want to talk about her trip but after me insisting and asking direct questions she responded as if everything was good and that she cant believe I thought that sms was staged (it seems it wasn’t in the end). On the question if she wants to meet up again she answered yes but couldn’t tell when. Still our chats are like between friends unless I start some other subjects. She does call me every evening before she goes to sleep to tell me that she loves me... if that means anything.

My question is what I should do and what I should expect, do note that I really like the girl and would like it to work out.

Thanks in advance and sorry once again for my long question and bad English.

My advice: Don't meet girls on the internet. If you really have to, don't wait so friggin long to meet up.

People are very different in real life to their online personalities. A lot of people can seem very outgoing and interesting online, then you meet them, and... yeah. A friend of mine had a thing for online hookups back in the day, and by christ he met some crazy girls. I'm not sure what went wrong with this girl but maybe you didn't live up to her expectations in person. Even though you met her online you still needed to be alpha and dominant with her, and displayed comfort from the moment you met her. Chances are you got together and were sheepish because it was strange actually being in each others company, and it put her off.

Thanks for the answer but what do you think; Do I have any chance or should I just forget about it all?

I tried to give her till the end of this week to tell me time when we are going to meet again, since she claimed everything was ok and that she wanted to meet again. Don’t know if that was a good idea but I think she will tell me that she isn’t sure or something, she even did that kind of things before. What I should do if she says that?

Well I will give a little update for anyone who might care.
My fears seem to be true, there was something wrong but she still won’t admit what that was. At the end, after a lot of pressures, I managed to get "I don’t think we can be together" answer. Still she wants to talk to me and now, after me making clear to her that I don’t want to be her friend and acting not interested in general, she somehow wants to spark that old flame. I still can’t figure her completely but what happened, happened.

As something I learned from all this, and as a message to any newbie who might find himself in same situation is never stop the game. After reading some of the materials I figured I did perfect game for first month, and that’s where she was most responsive. After that I thought I have it bagged and basically started to hop trough her hoops thinking I can be a nice guy now. It showed but still it was all good. Final and fatal mistake was when she came. Again I was stupid enough to think I have it all done. I acted insecure, didn’t have our time perfectly planed and didn’t do all the stuff Dalziel mentioned too.
Well at least I learned something

Least you learned from it all. One more suggestion i would have is not to be so insecure, when you mentioned you thought that sms was staged, how did she react? She probaly was shocked and thought how could he think that. That is just a insecurity that you will get over. I think that was one of the biggest mistakes.

Asking to to keep meeting up is not a great idea either, seems like you have nothing better to do and you have no options.

Which books have you read so far?

I think you might be able to sort it out, but it depends if you want her that much for a long distance relationship. Would be easier to sarge in a club or bar around your home town.

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Well it’s easy to say not to be insecure and hard to do it
It’s mostly little things that give you away, now that I think of it I would probably played that meeting completely different if I had another chance.

And yeah, when I mentioned what I felt about that sms she freaked, just like you say, she couldn’t believe I came up with that but...
You tell me, things aren’t working great, she suddenly gets sms from best friend that tells her parents called, couldn’t reach her, that her grandmother died and that she needs to head back home first thing in the morning. After that she doesn’t get any call concerning that subject from anyone, not her family, not even that friend. I still don’t know what to think about that sms. Thing is it was all believable since she told me, like 15 min after she came that her grandmother is sick and that she might die. She also told me that she told her parents that she’s with that best friend of hers.
Do note that I haven’t said anything about that sms while she was still here, I was just crushed and didn’t say much at all.

I know that asking to meet isn’t best option but I simply had to know what I stand on. She claimed nothing was wrong at start. I was afraid that she now wants me as an e-buddy that she can talk to while bored.

About getting her back I don’t know, I would lie if I said I don’t want that meeting to happen again, especially after all that happened. It left strong impression on me, sadly the bad one. But I still don’t know what exactly will work here.

I read quite a few books so far though I must admit not fully. I started with Without Embarrassment by Michael Pilinski then some David DeAngelo and finally Mystery Method, it’s all fresh in my head but I guess I will get around of figuring it all out.

I would suggest not putting so much emphasis on this one girl and branch out to other girls. Get a busy life and convey to her that i'm busy this time and this time but i'm free at this time. Also giving her a gift on the first meeting probably wasn't such a good idea.