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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2008 9:43 pm 
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If theres a way in, theres always a way out! I'd say that keep on gaming her until you've got her.. Keep on gaming her till you have neglected out all mistakes in your game, then you will, eventually, catch her :)! I was once in the same position as you are now but I learned the hard way from every mistake I did, I reframed all of the conversations in my head and thought days and days (I still do this) for solution to more solid gaming. There are some hardcore steps that I could put on note :

1. Never compliment her without negging her first or her earning the compliment.

2. Make her jealous! Flirt with her friends right in front of her! Girls compete on this alot and it will same time confuse her as she thought that you liked her, but obviously she was wrong.. You are able to hit on women, why? Because thats what PUAs do. :)

3. Tell her about other girls you have met! This is to make her think that she can't catch you anymore (or just somehow say "we are just friends", which turns the situation around.. Tada, she doesn't see you stuck in her LJBF-zone anymore!)

4. Use alot of push / pull. Easy example would be, if she asks "Do you still like me?", answer with something like "Yes, of course.. Why not? I mean you are a very loyal and great friend :)!" which will confuse her as she thought for a moment that you are her own, but then you almost immediatily pushed away from her! This might result of her asking numerous times that same question.. Just Never give her the answer she wants!

5. Don't get stunned and turn to a wussy from all the IoI's you get! This is the most important step! This doesn't mean that you ignore the IoI's. Remember to change the frame.. When many IoI's kick in, you change frame and game her the normal way :).

6. Make her invest on you (Buying you things etc.), NOT the other way around!

7. Escalate kino but don't go too rapid on it! By rapid I mean that a person who knows that you aren't too touchy but someday you just wake up from a coma and start escalating kino like it would be a disease.. It will confuse the person.

8. Don't give yourself in too easy, it will just bore her By this I mean that don't be that person she may call everytime and hes always available. You are a busy guy. You are PUA :)!

Those are just some examples I could think of right now, personally I would say that the rule #5. is the most important. Keep your frame up man! :) Good luck[/b]


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just hang around other girls infront of her while showing lost of intrest in her..


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just hang around other girls infront of her while showing lost of intrest in her..
This works really well. To tell you the truth I was in your situation awhile ago 4 years ago. I fell for this girl who became a friend of mine. But she was a shitty friend, I asked her on dates (flaked out on some), treated her out and expressed my interest (didnt know anything then). Later on I even told her I liked her and she countered with the "I'm not ready yet LJBF". I understood and remained a "good" friend to her. :shock: I found out a week later she likes another guy... In the end, I realized I was just putting myself into a deep hole of hurt and degrading myself. So in the end, I told myself "screw this" and I met someone new and spent unbelievable amount of time with her. She also happened to expressed interest in me so it was really good.

My contact with this "girl" lessen dramatically and she began to notice too. She then started contacting me more and more. Just because I may have lost interest on her, does not mean I care and I'll push her away. I'm too nice of a person to do that to anyone anyway. So I listened to her problems and talked with her and helped her. She became more friendly and asked so much about what I've been doing. She found then that I was dating this other girl...

To make the story short... The tables turned and in the end, she fell for me big time. And it felt really good....


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I was really deep in a LBJF zone with a chick back last year in college and i somehow got her to leave her 2 year boyfriend. It's not too difficult, first off you have to change things within yourself. Put yourself in a frame where you know shes attracted to you, she just doesn't know it yet. Create that attraction vibe with your energy, learn some NLP, run kino, and make plenty of eyecontact. If you haven't learned how to soulgaze, I suggest learning that and trying it on her.

Remember, it begins with you.

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and giving her space is really good advice. these guys have all given you great tips so follow them.

heres one more rule to follow: You have to be willing to lose a girl if you want to win her.

So turn the tables on the bitch in youre new frame, make her work for your time, flake her out, say no, make herself work for you.

Seriously read some Ross Jeffries books, he teaches you his automatic response is "No". It sucks shit when you really dig the chick but you have to be willing to lose her in order to win her. So say no, and if she asks why, you tell her something along the lines of "because I have a really important date or this came up, why? Is it urgent that you have to see me?"

And since shes more comfortable around you, its a perfect opportunity to run patterns and weasel phrases in and shit. My man, hit up the RJ's tapes and e-books.

Go to mininova.org and download them with the bittorrent client.

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btw how do i let a sarge know that i think of them as attractive? whith out telling them straight up?
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Try a juggler technique. Incorporate it into the discovery of another quality. For example if she starts talking about her artwork say, "Wow, you're artistic and sexy!" That way you're outright saying it while maintaining the focus on the qualities she's trying to sell.

Another important note, juggler emphasises using the term "sexy" not "beautiful" or "cute" because those are things that she can hear from her friends or mother.

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