I've got oneitis, I need to stop this. I'm planning on telling her that I'm not allowing myself hang out with women when I'm not getting any action. Implying that I mean from her. I figure this will acctually force her to be attracted, I've associated myself with sex. It lets her know I'm not interested if theres nothing there, and forces her to think about me, yeah she'll be pissed, but that never hurt anything.

tell me what you think, give advice.

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Funny, I never thought of it this way. It may be good, unless you're running "undercover." But it may crash, because you will fully reveal your intentions, so she may afterwards have regrets (depends a lot on her) - like "And he even told me he was going for sex, so it wasn't spontaneous..." Anyways, field-test it and tell us how it went.

Carpe Diem.

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You don't know the future, you can't change the past. The only thing that matters is THE CURRENT MOMENT.

let me fill you in, 90% of my friends are chicks, I'm going to tell this to all of them. The main ones I'm after have been friends of mine for 4 years, and I'm going to explain that just "hanging out" with them is killing my self image, and I feel like I'm worthless as a male when this is all we do.
One of them declares me as her brother, to another I'm her protector, I'm just sick of no action, I feel as though I could be considered an Orbiter, but I'm not head over heels, I'm just horny and not getting action and pissed about that.

So I feel the risk factor isn't bad enough to not do it, pluse because of school and work I only see them once every two weeks or so. I feel like there's nothing to lose. I'm going to let this info out on my friends birthday, after I give her her gift, and say, a possibly permanent, good bye.

well, here goes nothing!

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Nothing to lose. Fuck their minds up! Good technique!!

DaOracle

Whoa. You're a braver man than me. Plus if these are your friends can you really afford to lose a good percentage of them over this? If you only see them every two weeks that still is time well spent, and what about using them to meet more women? Just my thoughts, but I have a whole bunch of female friends, I flirt with some of them, I test my routines (unknowingly) on them, and all sorts of things. If any of them want more than friendship then cool, but they are my friends not my targets. If all your 'friends' are targets that hit the friend stage then thats cool, but trust me having a bunch of girl friends is good, it is better than fucking a couple and losing the rest. C'mon man, there are loads of girls out there to meet and game right off, look past your friends!

I disagree with Very_English.

If you feel hanging out with a particular group of people is not helping your self image, testing routines on them is not a bad idea! . They're still going to dump you anyway, when the they see the "right guy" to make a bf!

Personally I wouldn't want a girl I've been hanging out with for two years to introduce me as her brother. I can't be a playing fucken body guard role! That's an insult on any PUA or an aspiring PUA.

It doesn't matter what you do but how you do it. You don't have to be direct like telling them that you want to fuck. You can freeze them out, if you mean anything to any of them, they will be the one to run after you.

Keep the game tight
DaOracle

Hmmmmmmm...

I'm sorry to say, but any adivce here given will be futile...

If you have oneitis...Then I'm sorry you have to change yer approach...

First off, shame on you for having oneitis...

That means she has won, she has you running thru her loops and yer fucking going for it...

Second, it seems like yer thinking with the wrong head...

Girls have a natural sense of shit, especially when a boy wants to get his fuck on...

You implying that you don't wanna just hang out is a big no no...

You see girls want the attention and seek it when they don't get it...

So if she says, hey Graff you wanna hang out...?

You say...I'm sorry, I have plans my buddy wants me to go out on a double date and well I said I'd do it...So I guess we can hang out some other time...TTYL...

You gotta freeze her out...

But judging the way yer talking about this bird, she hasn't really given you shit...

You see if you think with yer dick, you won't get wat yer looking for...

You have to create an element of attraction by not being interested in her in a sexual way...

If you think by saying that yer not into hanging out she will most likely not fuck you, but you'll be fucked...

You have to understand women are very emotional and think about a lot of shit, so you have to think a lil ahead of her game...

Another thing Graff, if 90% of yer friends are female, then yer going about shit the wrong way... 90% of the females you know should be potential closes all wanting to get at least a phone call from you...

First and foremost, you need to strip that friendship of yers away, and recreate Graff in their eyes... Depedning how long you have known these girls, shit is really not worth trying to game these birds...Yer best bet is create a social life that doesn't concern them, make yerself visible with another girl yer gaming when they are around...You see what yer looking to do is have them pondering shit ....

"I wonder what Graff is doing...?"

Lets say one of these female friends call you, you can do a lot of shit to fuck with them...

For example, the next female friend of yers that calls you should play something like this...

Her: Hey wats up?
You: Uh...Ah...Hey, giggle, um can I call you back, I'm kinda busy with um...Yeah let me call you back...giggle...alright bye...(In a soft, sneaky, kinda voice...)

This should put some kinda shit in her head, have her thinking wtf it is that you were doing...Hopefully she thinks you were getting some...

Now if she calls you later and asks WTF was that all about you play this card...

Her: So wat was all that about the last time I called you...?
YOU: Wat are you talking about...?
Her: You sounded a lil preoccupied...
YOU: Well I was, but why do you ask?
Her: Just curious...
You: Well if you can guess what I was doing, then I will let you know, if not than you will never know, and that is pretty fun to me...ahahaha...

By doing this, you can totally find out if she has thought about you sexually...If she says you sounded like you were up to something with a girl, then that means she was thinkg about you in the manner...What you could have been doing...If she says you sounded retarded or like you were taking a shit...Then you say...

YOU: Well yeah, I kinda tend to sound like that when I have someone doing something to me...Sorry you called, and I don't know why I picked up...She was kinda pissed about that, but I made up for it...So whats up, you needed something?

By saying this, you will now have her think about you in sexual fashion as well...

Then if you can neg her, freeze her out, and let her know that you could hang out with her but you have other arrangements, then you should be good...

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This game is Custom made for me!

well stated guys, I tend to do things to an extreme. I had the whole cleansing idea, you know destroying an old life to create a new one. Well, I'm still debating on whether or not to do this, but I'm liking Custom's idea. I'll give it a try. They've all been doing this "I miss you" thing recently, I just don't know how to go about it yet.

I'm not saying I'm still going with my original idea, but I'm going to write up what I would send them if did go with it. If you guys would let me know what you think about what I would say that would be great. It should be posted by sunday.

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Let me interject here,

Get over your one-itis and keep them as friends. Nothing wrong with having girls that are friends. Just hang out with them but do not let that stop you from meeting other girls, especially while your with them.

Use them to DHV yourself in front of other girls. While with them, it makes it easy to use opinion openers on other girls. My favorite is to ask other girls whether they think something your 'girl friends' are wearing matches. Say you are arguing over it and ask their opinion.

This is going to have two affects:

you will meet other girls and the current 'friends' are going to become jealous.

On a side note, do not let them disrespect you by introducing you to another guy as their 'brother'. If they say that again, just simply say 'you fucking wish', walk off, and go up to and talk to the first group of people you encounter. If need be, leave.

They will quickly get the hint.

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Recommended reading list.

Double Your Dating by DD
(This will work on your inner game)

http://www.freewebs.com/xfman/
(This will work on your outer game)

Ok I've done some work. I'm not fucking them like mad, but progress has been made.

I have, slowly, started to make myself seem much more sexual than in the past. I've sent soi's and kino. We have gone from where there was little to no touching, to random massages, and physical flirting. On thing I did today was future tripped about how, when I start my business, she will be my sexy secretary that my nonexistent wife with think I'm having an affair with, this ended in a laugh, and a "but we wouldn't be". This has only been three days work, and only seeing each other for about an hour or two each day. I'm surprised about how fast attraction can be built, especially none being there for years. What do you guys think I should do now, stay on the path I'm on? move faster? Slower? let me know what you think.

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What u have is an asset. Leverage your girlfriends. Use them to get other chicks, which u can do. If potential targets see you with other females they would think there must be something about you in order for those other girls to hang out with you. It's what you call selling by association.

Use them for practice. Practice routines on them, run shit by them, use them to learn about women and how they think.

If you read the previous posts you'd understand that I already do that, and I know they suck at pivoting, but the buy by association, which I believe you mean in a different way, I like the sound of.

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