Ok, If I'm going to get anything out of this, I think I need to change my rap a little for this forum.
So I'm 22 years old and I've never had a girlfriend, and never had sex.
Those being the reason I'm drawn to th PUA methods, so far some of the methods have made me better in my social skills with women.

I'm the one they call a fag
I'm the one they call a creep
I'm the one they tell their boyfriends to beat up.

So far whats worked best for me, just as a start is 'disqualfieing yourself'

for example

'I got to meet my friend over there but I just got to say your boots are rockin.
I'm just not sure where to go from there.

hi m8t,

Go build some self confidence since it sounds liek yours has been beat down to the ground!

Try a sport, I would recomend a figthing sport. (Did some boxing myself real fun.)

Ok so work on that first and foremost self confidence!!

next start thinking of snappy comebacks hang out with people who always have some answer ready for anything yuo m8t ever say.

for example if some1 calls me gay. I would first off laugh then i would jump on their lap or smack them on the ass, and say.. wou i was just kidding but i actually think you enjoyed that.. your gros... or something of the sort. Look into some David Deangelo stuff I think he will help you alot!

The rest wil follow. It's not about having a woman first, its about becomeing a man that women want. And your gonna enjoy life more aswel Work on that self confidence mate!

why? expand on this because we cn help you to fix it

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Don't beat yourself down so hard, i'm sure you have some good qualities about yourself also? Tell us some and we can see where to take it from there and how to work on them.

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I would definately recommend some of Hypnotica's (rasputin) techniques for building self confidence. Also, Ross Jeffries has many mantras for increasing confidence. I never put myself down as a disqualifier, nor do i do direct approaches that often ('I got to meet my friend over there but I just got to say your boots are rockin.) It telegraphs too much interest and negates your disqualifier. An intro should be a conversation starter, good false time constraint. But as a false disqualifier you should do or say something to show your not interested in her, not let her know she shouldnt be interested in you. You really want to raise your social status when sarging, not lower it.

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When you are the prize, you are like a diamond. If you allow her to become the prize, you become a cubix zarconia.

Yo, no offense, but since people call you a "creep" you think about the "disinterested" you. I just posted like 2 minutes ago that I just started some techniques in PUA but seriously, I was called a "creep" or something like that too. I got a "date" (what she thought as a date) really was an unwilling wing(wo)man to go out. she wasn't that hot, maybe a 6 or so. That really helps. Go the "im not hitting on you road" with very very little kino to the love handles (if they have them) like i said barely started but 100% # close so far. just what worked for me since i was in your situation.

Ok so Pretty much for me meeting girls in hight was a pretty slim road.
Though when I look back now if I knew what I knew now maybe I could have done it.
I have a twin and me and twin, when we were going to school together were considered the epitome of retardation. The epitome of what stupid person is. And so fourth
Then we separated, I went to a small alternative hight school, and he went to another high school. and it become easier for me to meet friends and talk to people. but now I was in a alternative school. six class rooms. 8 teachers and a student body of only 130. Any girls that came through were either pregnant or only there because their boyfriends are making them.

Now I'm out of high school, still live with my parents. still live in a small town. Work a mediocre job. and take night classes at the university of Washington on Mondays. and I'm usually not their long enough to run game on anybody. Though during my half drive, half bus route to the university. I see plenty of attractive Asians that I've been dieing to run game on but had approach anxiety.

though ever since I read neil strauss's book I've ended up hitting on up to ten girls a day (at work)

I'm not much for sports, hell I haven't even played a video game in years. (my lame life). but I do ski, I used to be very good when I was young. And I took it up even though snow boarding was (and still is) The big thing.
The only other exercise I enjoy besides that is hiking, during the summer I go on long 4 hour hikes.

The things I currently do, well I wasn't quite clear with this, I'm a film student at the university of Washington. I had training and Microsoft studios in Redmond Washington, and now am doing film editing on Mac's the size of big screen tv's and the University.
I'm an inspiring film making, and hope to also write comics.

You said you wanted me to expand and thats my best effort.

Hi Mate,
Unfortunately Im the same as yourself but im 24.
After so many false dawns, I began to realise its guys like ourselves destiny to be this way, nothing we can do to change that.

Women love confidence. If you just sit there and memorize a bunch of routines, but dont demonstrate confidence you are not going to get anywhere. Therefore, you need to stand up straight, hold your head up high, and make eye contact. By the end of a conversation you should know what color eyes someone has. If you dont then you need to work on making eye contact.

You are definitely moving in the right direction by practicing at work so keep that up. However you need to increase the variety of places you try to pick up girls. On the bus is a good idea so use the 3 second rule to get over your approach anxiety. Dont allow yourself to think just do it!

If you fail no big deal. Then you can come on the forum and go through your game to see where you went wrong. Its not something that you will develop overnight so hang in there!

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Not a PUA just a girl offering my opinions/advice

that is the dumbest thing i've ever read..

ANYONE can run game..ANYONE...no matter what age or how many failures. your problem is you see your failures as just a failure and not something that you can LEARN from and not repeat again.

the best thing that ever happened to me was when i broke up with my ex cuz she cheated on me/lied/and just cut off contact. in the beginning i was devestated, made some LJBF girls which i learnt ALOT from by just observing and now (not that my game is amazing or anything) but my head is definetily in the right place as to how i see my past,

its not a failure that i approach a girl and she doesnt respond the way the game intends her to, its just that i got to improve my outer gain etc

USE the 3s rule. USE canned openers. USE C&F even if you have to sit and memorise lines/stories if you cant do your own.. dont just sit there and say "oh im a loser/creep no girl wants to go out with me so whats the point..?" get out there and talk. if you fail, go somewhere else and talk again. dont try gaming hb10s obviously, start from 4-5-6s and work your way up.

Ressurection this isnt a direct post to you, sorry if you felt that way lol, im just trying to cram as much info as possible in one post.

To Tyrone, you said you study filming..well im sure you could generate a shitload of stories of your "dreams and aspirations" to girls, talk about what 'kind' of movies you want to make..see what they like....talk about actors or something??.. you dont have to be a fratjockey to get the girls..

Keep on READING on material, look for VIDEOS and OBSERVE PEOPLE...look at other dudes who run game in public..see from start to end how they do it..not PUAS but people in your area..when you're in a bar with your friends, just look around..see how some losers just sit in a corner (whats the point of them even being there..) and look at the random people who approach.. YOU HAVE TO BE C&F to an extent of course..but read on it and practice..not with hot chicks first..start with friends..make lots of LJBF girls..as many as you can so you cn learn more..

sorry for the long post. hope it solves some issues.

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Let's first assume your face doesn't look someone's ass...
THEN YOU HAVE HOPE! LOL!

Anyway, your problem isn't that you are a fag/gay/w.e that people call you these things... People call you these things because you don't display confidence, and when you let them do that, you lose even more confidence...repeat (Circular logic-yes, but it started somewhere). I found that working out or just playing some sports helps you boost your confidence. Also, try to meet new people whenever possible, that helps too.

Anyway, my favourite comeback i came up with when i get called gay/fag is...
"Oh, no wonder why I think your mom is so *HOT*"

No worries mate I know its nothing personal against me.
I was going to set myself a 12 week plan as if my life doesnt change soon I dont know if I will be able to continue living the way I have.
But ive tried everything now with no success to show for it and Im fed up with getting shit on time and time again, even people on here have agreed that my life cant be turned around now so really theres no point in even making the effort.
Fact is some people are just luckier than others, I know people who have put in minimal effort into their lives and things have magically fell into place for them, as for guys like me my hard work and effort just gets thrown back in my face.

Hey Res..
Just Remember Dude..
~NEVER GIVE UP!!~
Your Life Is Too Precious To Be Wasted Like This.
C'mon Man..
I Wanna See U Succeed...
Find Something To Do In Yr Free Time.
Pick Up A New Hobby But DON'T FUCKIN GIVE UP!

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