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What do you do?

Well, I got to OCC originally I wanted to do automotive but after a semester I found out that wasn't for me. So, now I'm doing criminal justice, and its just always been something that interested me and I like it a a lot. ***Usually at this point they ask me if I want to be a cop, which is no. I'm not sure that I want to do with it.*** I'm actually a manger at office depot, I just got promoted recently. Yeah, it feels weird running shit, its completely new to me.


**Side note moved to chicago from central il as soon as I was done with high school. How should I work that in?


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Hey Ka! First of all congrats on the awesome thread you got running here!

My life has been pretty dull to be honest so I'm having a hard time making up DHV stories for myself. No injuries, no accidents, no major "oh shit or oh yay moments"

So I was playing with a thought the other day when i was standing in the shower. I got this sleepwalking habbit, or atleast I used to when I was a few years younger and now it happens quite rarly. I thought about making some of the times i have sleepwalked into fun stories. And this is one I came up with.

"girl talking...blablabla...Conversation dies and I yawn "neg" then from nowhere starts to talk about how I used to sleepwalk when i was a kid.

Story

So I am lieing there in my bed sleeping as people tend to do at 2 am. From nowhere at all this big piraya jumps out and bites me in the arm. I can't get it off so i rush out of bed. Run across my room, leap over the sofa and out into the balcony. I swing my arm around and the piraya finally comes off and lands out on the balcony. I then quickly close the door and ....wake up...standing at the balcony door ...

So I rush back to bed. Checks under the bed to make sure there are no more pirays...Then the thought hits me like a train... What fucking pirayas??

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Anyway. This is a 100% true story. The problem to me seems to be that it actually don't demonstrate on DHV. It is just some story... Do you think it would cause the reaction "he is creepy/weird", or more of a "hehe this guy is funny"? Maybe a slight off topic, but it might give some of you guys a good laugh

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Hey Ka what's up man? Not so long ago you helped me with a DHV story about how I came to study abroad in Australia. My complete post along with your response (a very helpful one I might add) is on page 9 of this topic.

How do I change this exact same DHV story for when I am back in the states?

Thanks for all of your help man!

P.S. You didn't forget about my Tae Kwon Do world champion story did you? :P


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Hey Ka whats up man? You helped me with a DHV story earlier and I have been reading some of your posts in other topics. You really seem to know whats going on. Here is a story that I think has a lot of potential I just need to refine it and figure out how to work it into conversation.

This actually happened to me. I was at martial arts practice and we were doing kick drills with partners. My friend was holding the bag and we started the drill. As soon as I threw the first kick I hear behind me some guy yelling, "AYEAYEAYEAYEAKIYA!!!" I turn around to look and its a guy I have never seen at practice before. My friend and I laughed about it but tried to keep it down since we didn't want to be rude and then kept going with the drill. After practice we laughed a lot and were like, "Who was that guy?" Then another friend walked up and he heard us talking and laughing about the experience... He said, "Oh thats a friend of our teacher's ... he's the Tae Kwon Do World Champion." So, we were laughing at the Tae Kwon Do World Champion.

I figure the theme here is don't judge a book by its cover, but maybe there are more or better themes.

Thanks a lot for your help.
This story should focus on the fact that your into a sport activity and use the guy making the noise as the kicker.

My Version:
"As much as i love conventional sports i needed something really involved and challenging. I took up Tae Kwon Do, and havent looked back since i started. Not only does it give me the workout i need and keep me in great shape, but ive meet some cool people there....and some wierd people.

It reminds me of this time me and my partner were doing drills together. Well you know how in all those kung foo movies the dude yells out "Aye-ah!" or something when he kicks or punches and makes a goofy face?

Well while im doing kick drills i hear behind me a loud "AYEAYEAYEAYEAKIYA!!!". Im like wtf and spin around to see some guy we had never seen before. It was kinda strange even for a Dojo (or whatever word they use), but me and my partner after class were talking and got a good laugh out of it. Then my buddy was like "who was that anyway?" and another guy we train with came over and said "Oh thats a friend of our teacher's ... he's the Tae Kwon Do World Champion."

Looking back on it its probably a good thing i didnt laugh in the guys face..."

Essentially what your doing here is bragging about something you can do, but making it seem like your just telling a funny story. Cut out the funny part and all it is is you telling her you do Tae Kwon Do.

You didnt do bad, you just want to highlight the part about what your doing and why, then add in the "kicker" to the story.

As for changing the story for the US, you dont really, you tell it in reverse...mention you were in Australia, make fun of it a bit, then start talking about the cool/fun parts/times/experiences. Remember people your age from the US tend to travel less then our euro/psuedo euro counterparts...so what your telling them is new

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What do you do?

Well, I got to OCC originally I wanted to do automotive but after a semester I found out that wasn't for me. So, now I'm doing criminal justice, and its just always been something that interested me and I like it a a lot. ***Usually at this point they ask me if I want to be a cop, which is no. I'm not sure that I want to do with it.*** I'm actually a manger at office depot, I just got promoted recently. Yeah, it feels weird running shit, its completely new to me.


**Side note moved to chicago from central il as soon as I was done with high school. How should I work that in?
To be honest this isnt really a story, its a list of facts about you. For instance you jump from your studies to your job which isnt related.

You need to try this agin, this time picking what you want to talk about...what part of you do you want the person your speaking to to know?

If its your studies then why are you studying it, when did you know you wanted to and what are you going to do with it (at least have an idea or a possible focus)

Also i dont know what OCC is, is it a place or a school? if its a school where is it? Whyd you leave chicago? was it to goto this school, if so why?

Give me a beefier story, trim the fat but include more meat. In other words focus on a topic but be more descriptive.

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Hey Ka! First of all congrats on the awesome thread you got running here!

My life has been pretty dull to be honest so I'm having a hard time making up DHV stories for myself. No injuries, no accidents, no major "oh shit or oh yay moments"

So I was playing with a thought the other day when i was standing in the shower. I got this sleepwalking habbit, or atleast I used to when I was a few years younger and now it happens quite rarly. I thought about making some of the times i have sleepwalked into fun stories. And this is one I came up with.

"girl talking...blablabla...Conversation dies and I yawn "neg" then from nowhere starts to talk about how I used to sleepwalk when i was a kid.

Story

So I am lieing there in my bed sleeping as people tend to do at 2 am. From nowhere at all this big piraya jumps out and bites me in the arm. I can't get it off so i rush out of bed. Run across my room, leap over the sofa and out into the balcony. I swing my arm around and the piraya finally comes off and lands out on the balcony. I then quickly close the door and ....wake up...standing at the balcony door ...

So I rush back to bed. Checks under the bed to make sure there are no more pirays...Then the thought hits me like a train... What fucking pirayas??

---------------


Anyway. This is a 100% true story. The problem to me seems to be that it actually don't demonstrate on DHV. It is just some story... Do you think it would cause the reaction "he is creepy/weird", or more of a "hehe this guy is funny"? Maybe a slight off topic, but it might give some of you guys a good laugh

/Chris T
Im glad you like the post.

Your story is not a DHV story, and unfortunalty i think it would give off a creepy vibe.

Seriously, why do some of you guys say your lives arent intresting?

How are you suppossed to tell stories of value when you cant see the inate value in your own lives and experiences?

If nothing funny has ever happened to you, nothing ironic, no vacation/trips, no misfortunes, etc then youve been living in solitare confinement your whole lives.

Think of stories you find yourself telling or thinking of when someone else is talking to you or telling a story, or that you think of when they ask you a question (like what school/job you have, where your from, etc)

Also there are plenty of DHV switches you can touch on indirectly just by story telling...the story itself doesnt always have to be the DHV....but generally you wont be able to help having a bit of DHV stuff inside the story. Then your storytelling skills will bolster the magnitude and the range of DHV switches used.

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Hey Ka I hope you can help me write a good story, I know I wrote a lot on that other post but here are the main things; let me know how I tell them in an interesting way, please :D

-Graduated high school at 16
-I had the party of the year, by far, that everyone remmembers, cops came and busted it. After that I had 3 other bit smaller ones, cops also came.
-In the summer I flipped my car when a drift went wrong


Let me know if you need more details, but I figure you can probably fill in some stuff

Thanks in advance


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Hey Ka (or anyone else able to help me out), I'm relativley new to PUA and I need to polish up some routines to give my game a bit of an edge.
Recently I've been using this version of the "hit on by a gay guy" story (that really happened two weeks ago), but it could use a little work I think. Here's it here:


"So I was out at hanging out with some friends of mine and a few girls when one of them spots this guy across the room wearing these .. bright.. pinstripe .. white.. pants. It doesn’t seem so out of the ordinary, but every person around him was wearing full black, and they were.. like a .. beacon!"
(The pausing works really well there for some reason. I'm trying to force myself to talk more slowly and with more pauses, and I find it's good to write them in there so you guys can use them too, they really work. On this note, I'd like to point out that this part is a little less then dramatic, so your tonality needs to make up for it.).
"Anyway, everyone has a bit of a laugh and jokes about going over to congratulate him on them, when I say "Why not? just go over!". Naturally everyone backs down, I swear my entire pack of friends would never get out if I didn’t lead them everywhere"
(A bit of a hint at leadership here works well)
"Naturally, I need to go over there, so I walk up to this guy and say 'Hey man, I noticed you across the room there and me and my friends all love your pants, Great work'. The guy looks a bit shocked for a minute and I shake his hand."
(The Idea of this section is to be playful and give across confidence; all you were doing was showing your shy (beta) friends how to be confident and playful in a social setting.)
"Right then, I turn to leave and I let go of his hand right... but he grabs on, and .. slides his hand up my wrist..!"
"I'm freaked at this point, He probably thought I was gay and trying to hit on him, and he WANTED IT! I get my hand away from him, and he does the whole... ahh, Here, I'll show you"

(You grab her wrist and slide your hand down off it slowly)
"Like that, as I was leaving. I go back to my friends and everyone told me it looked like he totally wanted me. Freaky stuff. Has that sort of thing ever happened to you?"


When performed in the field it comes off a bit better than it reads, but I think you guys get the drift of it here. Any advice on it would be appreciated.

For a second story, I've been wanting to work on one that shows good emotional wiring/caring etc. I was thinking of using the following experience:

My parents were having a lot of trouble for a while and it resulted in either of them being away or unable to help anyone for a long while. In these spaces I really had to come through for my little brother and sister. Although they are annoying at times, and I give them a hard time about everything, I really do care and when it matters, I'm always there for them.

It sounds alright in text, but it gives off a bit of a negative vibe when you start talking about your parent's marital issues to some girl. Can anyone think of a way to spin this so you can ease into it smoothly with a good energy? I dont want this to kill the playful vibe, but it should be a deeper, more emotional stage in a set.

I dont really know how to work it.

Thanks all.


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I read through alot of your posts and i have to say that first story is awesome. i'm going to come up with a slightly modified version of it to better fit my age (18 ) Im still in high school, im a senior now. obviously what you do for a job isn't something thats usually in the convo for us kids lol, but some questions like
"where do you want to go to school?" always come up and without a good response the convo goes dull. as easy as it is to answer, all I have is AFC material like "well... I was hoping to go to DePaul in chicago, that would be great, or OSU, what about you?" if I could have some great story about picking a school or anything close to the question that would make the convo less dull. another question is
"what did you do over the weekend?" again no really interesting answer, cause the truth would be friends, reading (the game), TV, videogames. and one more question
"what have you been up to?" we're going on summer vacation right now and I know this question will come up sometime.
any help would be great
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Hey Ka (or anyone else able to help me out), I'm relativley new to PUA and I need to polish up some routines to give my game a bit of an edge.
Recently I've been using this version of the "hit on by a gay guy" story (that really happened two weeks ago), but it could use a little work I think. Here's it here:


"So I was out at hanging out with some friends of mine and a few girls when one of them spots this guy across the room wearing these .. bright.. pinstripe .. white.. pants. It doesn’t seem so out of the ordinary, but every person around him was wearing full black, and they were.. like a .. beacon!"
(The pausing works really well there for some reason. I'm trying to force myself to talk more slowly and with more pauses, and I find it's good to write them in there so you guys can use them too, they really work. On this note, I'd like to point out that this part is a little less then dramatic, so your tonality needs to make up for it.).
"Anyway, everyone has a bit of a laugh and jokes about going over to congratulate him on them, when I say "Why not? just go over!". Naturally everyone backs down, I swear my entire pack of friends would never get out if I didn’t lead them everywhere"
(A bit of a hint at leadership here works well)
"Naturally, I need to go over there, so I walk up to this guy and say 'Hey man, I noticed you across the room there and me and my friends all love your pants, Great work'. The guy looks a bit shocked for a minute and I shake his hand."
(The Idea of this section is to be playful and give across confidence; all you were doing was showing your shy (beta) friends how to be confident and playful in a social setting.)
"Right then, I turn to leave and I let go of his hand right... but he grabs on, and .. slides his hand up my wrist..!"
"I'm freaked at this point, He probably thought I was gay and trying to hit on him, and he WANTED IT! I get my hand away from him, and he does the whole... ahh, Here, I'll show you"

(You grab her wrist and slide your hand down off it slowly)
"Like that, as I was leaving. I go back to my friends and everyone told me it looked like he totally wanted me. Freaky stuff. Has that sort of thing ever happened to you?"


When performed in the field it comes off a bit better than it reads, but I think you guys get the drift of it here. Any advice on it would be appreciated.

For a second story, I've been wanting to work on one that shows good emotional wiring/caring etc. I was thinking of using the following experience:

My parents were having a lot of trouble for a while and it resulted in either of them being away or unable to help anyone for a long while. In these spaces I really had to come through for my little brother and sister. Although they are annoying at times, and I give them a hard time about everything, I really do care and when it matters, I'm always there for them.

It sounds alright in text, but it gives off a bit of a negative vibe when you start talking about your parent's marital issues to some girl. Can anyone think of a way to spin this so you can ease into it smoothly with a good energy? I dont want this to kill the playful vibe, but it should be a deeper, more emotional stage in a set.

I dont really know how to work it.

Thanks all.
I beleive your rendition of the hit on by a gay guy story is good, but it needs something at the end other then asking them the question you pose..

A comment or trueism, something like "I go back to my friends and everyone told me it looked like he totally wanted me. I guess that would wierd out some people but i know who i am, actually from what i hear gay men are very picky, more so then women...so i was actually kinda flattered."

This makes you different, it also shows that you are putting a positive spin not on on the situation but a whole class of people that many other guys would bash.

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I read through alot of your posts and i have to say that first story is awesome. i'm going to come up with a slightly modified version of it to better fit my age (18 ) Im still in high school, im a senior now. obviously what you do for a job isn't something thats usually in the convo for us kids lol, but some questions like
"where do you want to go to school?" always come up and without a good response the convo goes dull. as easy as it is to answer, all I have is AFC material like "well... I was hoping to go to DePaul in chicago, that would be great, or OSU, what about you?" if I could have some great story about picking a school or anything close to the question that would make the convo less dull. another question is
"what did you do over the weekend?" again no really interesting answer, cause the truth would be friends, reading (the game), TV, videogames. and one more question
"what have you been up to?" we're going on summer vacation right now and I know this question will come up sometime.
any help would be great
thanks
All of those can be spiced up, your selection of school can be used as an outlet to show ambition, willing to take risks, and willingness to emote among others...

The weekend one you can spice up by mearly elaborating on what you did...but instead of highlighting the details you highlight the moods, feelings, emotions and impact you had on the weekend...

As for the vacation this is a great way to talk about your desires to travel, your bond with your family, as well as future ambitions...

Pick any of them, make a story and feel free to post it here for critic.

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idk i really hate when girls do that same story on me...you know when they talk about all the probably fictional creepy stalker guys that chases them because they are just too hot for their own good. Its just a huge turnoff for me because they are clearly just asking for attention in the most convoluted way possible, by saying how much they hate sex driven creepy stalker guys. ESPECIALLY when we were talking about some other perfectly good subject.
But maybe it works when you reverse it like that. Im just wondering, how do you steer the conversation toward that story? lol... bcuz that is a strange thing to randomly say.


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Dude, Ka it's people like you who make the whole PUA scene such a great place. I don't know how you find time to post all these reply's but you're genuinely someone to look up to for all the noob's like myself.

Anyway i'm fairly new to all this and have yet to go out sarging, however i feel like my style would be very conversational with C&F mixed in. I've never had any problems speaking to people or infront of people and i thrive on performance.

My story goes like this. When i was in my final year of highschool i found myself in a position where i was extremely overweight and couldn't study or concentrate which led to me getting a less than impressive final mark. i didn't know what i wanted to do with myself but i knew i wanted to make a positive change right at that moment. so i took the next year off and didn't go to uni like i had planned... i got a personal trainer and concentrated on healthy eating. since then i've lost about 85Kgs (about 187lbs) and i'm in my final year of university studying management. Lately i've started doing some stand up comedy after looking for something i really enjoy.

Due to mainly my weight problems i haven't had much experience with girls (however i did manage to see and regularly bang a HB7 30 yr old mom of 3) other than that not much else. right now i'm still overeight but i think i look ok.. so is there anyway to use this as a DHV story?


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Well, I know I need help with two of my own stories!

The first one involves my best friend and a former pro wrestling rival of mine. My best friend wanted to see what I do on a weekly basis. Reluctantly, I allowed him to come along and my friend/rival was there. The both of us get a bit of training done and we are pretty close to calling it a night so I hopped out the ring to get my stuff to get ready to go. Unknowingly to me at the time, my best friend had hopped in the ring with the guy, getting roughed up pretty badly. Now, my rival knows how to push my buttons and when I came back to see what was taking place, I was livid! I was cussing him out, getting into his face while trying to point at my friend to get out of the ring cause it was time to do my favorite thing to settle a fight....2 out of 3 falls.
The details we will skip for now but during the last fall, my rival actually crawled towards my friend, knowing I would follow. And followed I did, grabbing onto his foot just to make sure my friend doesn't get hurt! Then he must have hit me with something wicked because about a minute later, I'm looking at the ceiling, knowing I lost. It's crazy cause after that, I became great friends with my rival. But, I was feeling like I'd damn near do anything to make sure my friend doesn't get himself hurt.

It needs a lot of help and probably saying I lost would DLV me instead.

I'll bring up my second story after I get helped with this one since the other story is used by knowing someone else.

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Well, I know I need help with two of my own stories!

The first one involves my best friend and a former pro wrestling rival of mine. My best friend wanted to see what I do on a weekly basis. Reluctantly, I allowed him to come along and my friend/rival was there. The both of us get a bit of training done and we are pretty close to calling it a night so I hopped out the ring to get my stuff to get ready to go. Unknowingly to me at the time, my best friend had hopped in the ring with the guy, getting roughed up pretty badly. Now, my rival knows how to push my buttons and when I came back to see what was taking place, I was livid! I was cussing him out, getting into his face while trying to point at my friend to get out of the ring cause it was time to do my favorite thing to settle a fight....2 out of 3 falls.
The details we will skip for now but during the last fall, my rival actually crawled towards my friend, knowing I would follow. And followed I did, grabbing onto his foot just to make sure my friend doesn't get hurt! Then he must have hit me with something wicked because about a minute later, I'm looking at the ceiling, knowing I lost. It's crazy cause after that, I became great friends with my rival. But, I was feeling like I'd damn near do anything to make sure my friend doesn't get himself hurt.

It needs a lot of help and probably saying I lost would DLV me instead.

I'll bring up my second story after I get helped with this one since the other story is used by knowing someone else.
That's a brilliant story you have there, you could DHV with that easily. Contrary to what you might think, saying you lost improves it. Not only does it make it more beleivable and real to them, but it shows that you care more about your friends than winning.

Here's the way I'd put it:
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...My best friend wanted to see what I do on a weekly basis. I dodnt really see any problem with it, so I took him to one of my wrestling practives. A friend of mine that I fight against a lot was there. We never really got along, so when we fought it usually got really intense. The both of us get a bit of training done and we are pretty close to calling it a night so I hopped out the ring to get my stuff to get ready to go...

**Right here you slow down your speaking and lean in a little**

I turn around a few minutes later, and I see my best friend had hopped in the ring with the guy! He was getting roughed up pretty badly... As soon as I saw it I just felt stunned. I knew my friend didnt know how to fight, and this guy was taking the oppourtunity to really hurt him because of our little feud over nothing.

This wave of anger just washes over me, I couldnt beleive how angry I was. I get my friend out of the ring and take his place up there.

I'll spare you the details, but on the last round... my rival actually crawled towards my friend! Something in my head just snapped. I didt have any choice about it, but the next thing I knew I was grabbing his foot to keep him away from my friend.

Then he must have hit me with something wicked because about a minute later, I'm looking at the ceiling, knowing I lost. It's crazy cause after that, I became great friends with my rival. But, I was feeling like I'd damn near do anything to make sure my friend doesn't get hurt.
That's a great story for flicking your "good emotional wiring DHV" which a lot of PUA's forget. I wish I had a story as good as that for my own use.

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