so i kno this HB8 for almost a year, we started out as friends, never thought i would like her. but recently i fell for her. i told her, because i feel like if i dont, everything i do, she would take it the friend way. she told me she wasn't ready, since the finals and summer is coming up, we wont see each other for 3 months during summer. and i kno she had sex with this guy twice a while ago and likes him, but he never called her.

for a while it was awkward. but i handled it well, i acted like nothing happened. but recently, i started kino attack, she likes it, but sometimes she tries to avoid it, sometimes she would return some kino like stroking my hair. anyway, we got closer recently. we talk and joke like before, sometimes we would hold eye contact for like 30 seconds or longer.

so last night, her roommate's bf is here, so she came to my room to sleep, coz my roommate wasn't here. she does it alot before i told her i like her. so i thought she wants me, at least a little, since she knew i like her and still came in. she went to my roommate's bed first, then came to my bed to watch this movie with me. she leaned on my shoulder, and i stroked her arm and hair. but every time im ready to make a move she would turn her back on me. then she just said shes tired and went to my roommates bed and fell asleep. this morning, she was in my bed for 5 minutes, sleeping while i was up, then i lay down, but again, she has her back to me, avoid eye contact, or talk about school.

i dont know what is going on, i feel she likes me, does she want me? or she just still see me as a friend? is it that she doenst want me, or shes just waiting for my move, should i just grab her face and kiss her? or is just dont wanna get into anything before we leave? TONIGHT IS THE LAST NIGHT before we leave, so please! help out!!

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Oww wow ..
I am affraid you are in the best friend zone, and it takes a lot of afford to get out of that spot. It can't be fixed in 1 night believe it or not. This girl is comporteble around you and she has been acting "strange" because she is afraid to loose you as her friend. She knows you want to take itJ further, but if you go for it tonight there is a big chance you end up loosing her. I recommend you to keep it on the low and game her (100%) after the summer. Read some topic about this and be prepared. Try to improve your game in the summer so she won't know what hit her after the summer. Hope i helped you

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Thats a tough situation my friend. Turning her back to you is not necessarily a bad thing. I know I am replying too late to be of any help but for the future I thought I would through my two cents in. If a girl lays in the same bed as you the main thing to do is kino yet don't make it obvious. If her back is toward you then just kind of rub your leg against hers as you "switch" positions. You can continue to do small things like that and gauge her reactions. I wouldn't just go for the kiss unless you have built up some touching or at least light spooning in your position.

I have had many experiences like this and it has always worked out for the best. Think of it like this. She is making a conscience effort in sleeping in your bed knowing that you like her. Girls are not all retarded, they always have motives. The main point is do not move to fast in cuddling up to her. I hope this helps.

First of all, this really smells like oneitis to me. You are way too hooked on a girl that you haven't even slept with (well, you slept with her, but you didn't, you know, have sexual relations). So, examine that.
Second, you're putting too much pressure on yourself to close the deal. You're giving yourself a time frame. That, in my humble opinion, is weak game. I'm not hating on you, brother. We've all gone through it. I'm just opening your eyes to it. You just can't do that to yourself, however. Sometimes you game a girl, everything goes perfectly, and you close the deal...just not that night, however. Sometimes it takes more time that others to get there. If you rush it, it's called rape. Take what she gives you and use it to your advantage, but understand one very important thing...she's not the only HB 8 and if you can break this oneitis, then you'll score with more than just one and maybe even some 9s and 10s.
The cure for oneitis...go out and sleep with ten women.

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Grab her by her neck and look her in the eye and tell her softly that shes sexyand go half way for the kiss if she denies freeze her out. Be the man shes waiting for u to lead.

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just tell her you need to have some sex since you havnt have sex for awhile, and just start to taking off her cloth shit. and then....you know...

lol

i asked some people's advice , they gave me a pattern from RJ about how to make a friend have feeling for you. ill give to you when you back from berekely.

She is saying try harder, she is saying please find a routine to remove my clothes and stop me from saying no.

can any old balls (master puas) tell me what is really going on? imean some say she is available, some of yall say its best friend zone.

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My guess is that she just sees you as a friend. Women (and some men) like physical affection from their friends and what she allowed you to do all still falls in the 'friend' zone.

The one other possibility is that she feels ambivalently about you. Perhaps there is a part of her that likes you, which is why she is letting you get close to her. And there is a part that doesn't, and she cannot decide, so she keeps sending you mixed signals. However, if you dive in too quickly, she sounds like the type to get scared off. If she doesn't, she will enter into a relationship with you in which she continues to feel ambivalent and that won't be fun for either of you. If you are head-over-heels for this girl, I suggest you give her some time and try to flirt with her (smile at her in a certain way, touch her a bit, etc. etc). to make it clear that you're interested and ready when she is. If she wants you and she is not terribly insecure, she will show clear signs. If she is terribly insecure, she's not worth your time.

If I were you, I wouldn't wait around and try to figure out whether or not she likes you. She knows you like her, so if she is ready and she really wants you, she will get you. There are millions of other girls, and probably thousands who have similar qualities to hers.

GRAB HER HEAD AND KISS HER!!!!! thats the best way to find out if she likes you or not.

While I don't have a ton to offer on this, I can offer what I think it likely is.

She is a fence sitter. Like Mentioned earlier there is a part of her that likes you and another part that isn't sure. Sounds like you like the girl so do something extreme to sweep her off her feet!

You can't have her if your not afraid to lose her.

GO FOR IT! A simple question you should have asked when she was in bed with you.

"Do you wanna kiss me?"

Works everytime.

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I think you might be in need of some tough love my friend. Your question is like a basketball player asking how sharp his ice skates should be before a big game. I get the distinct impression that you have yet to read one line of PUA literature. Right now you are in "pre-game", and have no knowledge of women and dating. I am only saying this, because you seem like you are really ready to start learning. For the time being, however, don't interact with any women until you have read at least two books on seduction and watched every youtube approach under the sun. After doing that, you will disregard your current question and start thinking entirely differently. I wish you the best of luck.

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I feel ur pain brother. I too had a situation like this where I had an HB8 coming to sleep in my dorm room alot. Yet the only time anything happened (not that alot happened, making out) she tried to say she didn't remember the next day. Which was not true. Eventually I got tired of the shit and stopped picking up her phone calls, which allowed me to get other girls in my bed that were ready to get down. So sorry I cant really give you a technique to get this girl, but my advice is that you will be able to have way better girls in your bed if this one is not occupying the space. I know its hard but u may have to let this one pass. Good luck bro!

Definently best friend zone there.. sad thing..
I've been there myself. Horrible! Should never happen to anyone. Except if the girl is ugly as hell.

Is it by the way possible to get out of the best friend zone?
Never really given that so much thought.