Solkanar's Guide To Dating



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PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2006 4:44 am 
Alright guys, decided to end the barrage of questions and post some tips. Your in a club, you talk to a chick, attract her and get her number. Now what?

I've decided to write a post on the after-math of pick-up since there is so much material on the process of picking up chicks.

First and foremost, if you have aquired a females phone number or email you must follow the 3-day rule. This rule is pretty basic, it means - No contact with the target until 3 days after you recieve her number or email. There are many reasons for this. You call her right away you look like a desperate tool. If you wait a while she the anticipation will build, which is what you want. In the Rules of Attraction, one of the fundamentles is that the male must look as uninterested in the target as possible. Phoning girls is tough because it's hard to look like the object of desire when you are making the move, however it is neccessary for the male to do this. So, to counter this problem, there is a clever trick you can use.

Messaging. 9 times out of 10 the chick will hand you her cell phone number. Do not call her after 3 days but instead message her. Send her a message like "hey babe, It's Solkanar from the bar. Anyways I just remembered how much you need dance lessons from moi, so give me a call if your up for the challenge." The message can say anything aslong as it says for her to call you. What has happened is you have taken an initiative, it is her turn to respond back. You havn't called her so you are still suave and cool.

If she calls you, tease her a bit, "WOW! Im shocked you actually had the courage to call me, very impressive." Remember to NEVER tell her or demonstrate to her how much you enjoy her company, it is unneccesary to say AFC shite like "well anyways, I really enjoyed your company the other night so I thought that maybe it would be possibe to bla bla bla im a tool". When you talk to her be casual, tease her, joke around. Arrange a meeting like you are arranging a meeting with your bro Dave. Rule of Attraction - BE TOTALLY UNPHASED BY ANYTHING, be unphased about the date or any defenses she might come up with "wellll, I dunno, I just met you and...." just respond with a "ok, 1:00 then?"

The Meeting - Alright, you must make or date at a certain point. I advise against anything awkward where either recipiant feels they must entertain.

Solkanar's List of Usless AFC LJBF Dates

1) The Dinner - SO awkward. It's hard to interact because all you do is talk, and topic conversations must be started out of the blue. Usually they range from your favorite hobbys to what you do as a job, BORING

2) The Movies - No interaction whatsoever, just look at the screen, she could do this by herself in her room, why does she need you? Right, she dosn't, and that is exactly the impression you'll give

3) Lunch Date - This is one-way ticket to LJBF highway, going on a lunch will usually put you faster in the Friends Zone then a fly on shit.

Solkanar's List of Good Memorable Dates

1) Shopping - The best idea I've ever come up with, usually ends in sex guaranteed. This is what you have to do. The next time you need new clothes, savour this situation for dating oppurtunities. Tell the girl to meet you at a park bench or something. Then go up to her and be like "k, lets go." She'll be like "huh?". Then tell her that you need to shop for some clothes and she's going to help you. Not only will she find clothes that look really good on you, but she will have the time of her life and be VERY attracted to you.

2) Concerts - ANY concert is good, dosn't matter if she dosn't like the music, dosn't matter if the band isn't big. It can be at a Jazz Bar, whatever, this is a very good interactive date. You will be able to dance with her and tease her about many things.

3) Dance Lessons - Take her to Salsa lessons followed up by a night at a Salsa Club. Trust me, as the night goes on, she'll be getting wet.

4) Paintball or Laser Tag - Sounds like it would be a horrible idea, but trust me, it isn't. Alot of kino opportunities. She has this game down pact, she's played it ever since the 8th grade. Even if this chick is the female world champion of paintball, all she will do is cower behind a wall or tree. This is when you can play with her, try pushing her out into the open, lead a charge with her, this stuff is a change of pace for chicks and lots of fun.

5) A Fair - These are classic and not that secretive, but taking chicks to fairs is really good. All the games like tossing balls and darts are great because you can make fun of how bad she is at it. If you win, you can always pull a classic PUA qualifying trick, don't get her the big teddy bear but get her the plastic dracula or skeleton, something really nasty. She'll laugh her ass off.

6) Extreme - Depending on how much money you have and the kind of girl she is, take her on some crazy adventure she'll never forget. Take her sky diving or bunjee jumping. This kinda stuff creates a strong bond and really triggers the oxytocine levels in her body, meaning she'll indefinately want sex afterwards.

7) Waterpark - Again, another classic interaction kino place. Not only are the both of you stripped down, but you touch each other and are in water. When you go down the slide together, it's just a teaser for that rush that men and women experiance in bed...priceless.

8) The Zoo - This may not be as affective if she is an animal rights extremo, but you should detect this, if you don't, work on your peceptual skills. Zoo's are great cause all women love animals. Again, many teasing oppurtunities. "ohhhhhh he's so cute" ; "I can take him, wanna place bets?"

9) Anything Boat Related - If you have a boat, a yacht, well....you shouldn't even have to read this. But gentlemen, there is something about boats and women. Paddle boats, Kayakes, Cruiseships, it's all just so perfect.

10) Minigolf - Again, another interaction where there are plenty of oppurtunities to make fun of her.


Once your on one of these dates it is vital that you remain cool. Do not blow it by opening up to her, telling her your plans for the future. Just have fun, act cool, tease her, play with her. Stay away from any AFC comments, don't be her baby brother! "Great Shot! Wow, you're really good at this!" IS SO MUCH WORSE THE "Got lucky there pumpkin, 10 bucks says you can't do it again." Alright, those are my tips for that clinical moment, the date.

-Solkanar[/b]


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Thanks man, it sounds good!


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one thing i should add - you say wait 3 days to 'build the anticipation'. if you didn't do a good enough job of attracting her on the approach, its probably a good idea to shorten this to two days or she might forget you.

who knows how many PUAs are in your area? and if the girl is hot, she might be approached by a couple guys who are better at approaching than you, after you.

just a thought.

other than that point i loved this post :D especially the waterpark idea.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 10:44 am 
I agree with Diablo 3 days might be a little long. Another factor that comes into play is what day of the week you call to set up a date, especially if you are planning something for the weekend with her.

Calling sunday, monday or tuesday is desperate, wednesday is acceptable, thursday is optimal and friday is too late even if you want to plan something for saturday.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 8:04 pm 
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Hi guys,

from my personal experience I dont wait 3 days, I wait a week.
Lets say, if I get her phone number on saturday, on tuesday im sending her a message telling that im very busy but next week I could have some time to meet her.
Its true, its a bit risky because someone else could pick her up, but what are the chances of she meeting a PUA in a week, most guys are like us before knowing the existence of this material.
And if she meet someone else, who cares, she is nothing yet in your life
Just some thoughts Bye


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 1:34 pm 
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Xcellent job of listing fundamentals... Solkanar

This list should be a good reference for those looking for ideas...

I usually tend to suggest to the people I coach... that you should make a list of places, events, and activities that you would like to see or try for the first time...

This is especially true if your date has never tried it before as well...

This way you are entertaining yourself foremost, and she is along for the ride... also experiencing new things is a powerful bond...

Don't worry about excelling in the new activity... you can tease her the whole time about it... It is all her fault.. lol

These activities usually lead to uncontrollable laughter, the side splitting type...

Always start off with some disclaimers like that you will cheat at the task/activity... but she isn't allowed to... lol

Horse Back Riding...
WindSurfing...
SnowBoarding/Skiing...
Ab Sailing...
Kayaking...
Any Recreation center class... ie cooking, arts, crafts...
Ballroom Dancing...
Minor activities are excellent too.. it can be cheap too...
Rollerblade, Hiking..etc..

Women love adventure.... it excites them... their blood boils.. and makes them feel alive...

They will remember you for life if you introduce them to something new...

The most important part though is that this is all for YOU...

your entertainment and amusement....she is just a tag along... so your enjoyment is the key... she is secondary... this is a key ingredient...

You already had planned on doing these activities she is just a welcome addition...

This also relieves you of the date pressure, and will give you many opportunities to touch her (the art of Kinaesthetics), and have close contact and special moments presented to you...

If you live in a city there are too many activities to list..

As for the 3 Day Rule unfortunately it has passed its sell by date...

Women are looking for unique men...

Unfortunately the 3 Day rule is too well known now...

I suggest 2 or 4 Days... never 1 (Desperate) and not 3 (Turn-off leads to more Tests), anything over 5 is when she will start thinking there is something wrong with you...

Although if I get a number from a lady I will definitely see again...

such as a bartender, waiteress, stripper, retail sales reps, hair stylist etc...

I don't always call because I find it highly effective showing up a week later... and she is all angry.. why didn't you call me...?

Good time to show off your Trophy Status... and that you're The Challenge...

This action has built up your value and status in their eyes, as well as it indicates their attraction towards you... with high traffic ladies who are in attention whore professions... this is POWERFUL

and once you have them chasing you... you are in control...

Sounds mean but in these high traffic jobs... women prefer it this way... and any overt actions will result in failure... just because of the offers they receive daily... they want someone unique.. playful and FUN.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 5:51 pm 
Right On Target about movies. You want her to be interacting with you.

Also, there are certain foods and drink to AVOID when on the hunt. Don't eat a heavy meal or drink heavy drinks. Thick beer, etc.

Keep it light. Eat Sushi or Vegetables. Do Jager shots. Stay away from super-busy restaurants if you can.

Try to have the activity and interaction be the focus.

Women also love the cheesy carnivals in the summer. Feel like a kid, more likely to hold hands, cuddle, etc.


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I agree stay light and nimble.... float like a butterfly sting like a bee

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i went with a group of friends to a gun range 2 days ago to fire pistols. First time i fire a gun, my friend's GF was with him and she surprised us all by being the one who had the most fun, so I'd add Gun Ranges to the list, there's nothing like danger 2 get a girl hot


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i NEVER follow the 3 day rule, in fact, I call the next day and actually tell her 'every guy is told NOT to call a woman till 3 days after getting her number but I don't like games, I'm very straightforward and you seem like the type of person that appreciates that.'

If the conversation isn't good or she's a bit too cocky or I sense non interest, then I don't call her till she calls me. If she doesn't ever call, so what. Move on.

If she calls after a few days and says 'I haven't heard from you' or whatever, I tell her straight up that I felt a vibe that she may not have been interested or that maybe i shouldn't have called so early. This usually puts her on the defensive and makes her try to be more interested. At this point I ask for the date. 9 times out of 10 she accepts the date and depending on what I'm doing when she calls (although I usually let it go to voice mail) I invite her over for a home cooked meal or to see a dvd or whatever as long as its my place and she's coming over.

I'm not saying the original post doesn't work, but its not the only way.

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Very good posts and suggestions salkanar. Oh and i think 2 days is pretty good unless you have amazing attraction and she is HB9+ but its just me

Oh and i have a some problema

Ok so i wanted to use the shopping one but shes broke like a joke (but really) And im fairly well off so i dont want to be AFC by being like

Out"Hey im going to mall to get some new threads you can tag along if you like"

HBL "Oh id love to but im broke"

Now at this point i say "Well maybe il get something for you" but that seems to AFC paying for stuff right? Or i just say "Well ok" and loose her

Suggestions?


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 7:03 am 
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Out"Hey im going to mall to get some new threads you can tag along if you like"

HBL "Oh id love to but im broke"
Out "Oh, I just said you could tag along. Give me some time to get to know you before we go further."


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Out "Oh, I just said you could tag along. Give me some time to get to know you before we go further."

Bit confused there LA, would you mind explaining the rationilization of this SPAM (please forgive me AP physics and AP spanish fried my brain today)


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 12:04 am 
In other words, don't even think that I'm spending money on you. I dont know you. Show yourself to me before you even think about something like that.


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