Ah the David X rules
Good shit is'nt it

Rather than asking them if 'they are single'
Try this

'ah you're really nice,
Let me guess,
you either have a BF,
you're a lesbian,
or you only date guys over 6ft who drive sports cars,
which one is it?'

Also before asking this make sure you get abit of chit chat in first, it sounds like you're going for the close abit early because you feel uncomfortable.
I dont normally ask the 'single' question, but when i do i like to say it in an unpredictable/other way.

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nice mate keep going. 50 direct approaches. by the 50th u will be able to carry on a bigass convo maybe??

Im only a newbie but i felt i had to tell you this.... Style says never give her the option to say no.... for example say "i need an opinion on something" instead of "can i get an opinion on something". Also the are you single question was too afc, as a pua you are the exception to the rule.

Keep up the good work man!

Approach 8, 28th may 2008
There was a surprising lack of lone wolves out today, and I don't want to approach groups of girls with Direct (for now, I will later in this experiment).
Anyway, one of those charity workers you get on the street tried to get me to stop, so I said just looked her in the eye and said "What you doing later?". She was like "Why?", so I said "We should get together". She was like "I'm going back to Huddersfield". I said "Ok, give me your number". She refused, and then we had a bit of a conversation. I tried for the number again before leaving, she wasn't up for it so I ejected and wished her a good day.

With the direct approach its like being more honest about why you're talking to her. You say this and ask her out, but why would she want to give you her number, your just some random guy, you have to have some attraction and rapport first, if you want to increase your success rate. Even if you do # close its more likely to turn into a flake. You need at least some convertsation. You can get quicker # closes in daygame but if you tried that in a bar what would you expect to happen.

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31st May 2008
I went to Liverpool with KEYS today for a day of Direct. First of all I felt quite a lot of AA, as this was the first time I'd done Direct with another PUA and it was a whole different ballgame from indirect.

Approaches 9, 10 and 11
Basically I tried to stop moving targets moving towards me with by saying "Hi, can I just stop you a second", but none of them would stop.

Approach 12
HB7 gothic/rock chick standing on the street. I approached and said "Hi, can I interrupt you a minute....you're the most attractive girl I've seen all day and I HAVE to meet you!".

She seemed a bit cold, so I stuck my hand out and introduced myself and shook her hand. I asked her where she was from, then I just honestly said "I'm just out to meet girls today". She was like "Ok", but she seemed a bit cold so I ejected.

Approach 13
Chinese girl sat on seats in city centre. I approached with the same opener as in the previous approach, then I stuck my hand out to shake her hand but she didn't shake my hand. She also seemed very closed off so I walked off. Fuck it, her loss, she was really socially retarded I dunno but who cares?

Approach 14
HB8 blonde walking towards shopping centre. I walked beside her and said "Excuse me, I think you're attractive and I want to say hello". She looked at me and didn't even react, she just kept walking. Fuck it, her loss.

Approach 15
After finishing up in the city centre, me and KEYS drove round in his car on the way to the supermarket. I spotted a HB8 blonde, very hot student girl, walking down the pavement, so I asked KEYS to pull the car over round the corner (where she couldn't see me). So I got out and walked round the corner as if I just happened to be walking down the road.

As we passed, I said "Excuse me can I just stop you a second (she stopped). I think you're attractive and I want to meet you". She said "Aww thankyou". I said "Well I couldn't walk past without stopping to talk to you". Again she said "Aww thanks". But I ejected myself. After a day of blowouts, I was a bit taken aback by the good response. I couldn't handle it, and just ejected myself and walked back to the car.

I also got a number close from a girl KEYS knows in Liverpool city centre today. She seemed into me, but we'll see where it goes.

On the whole I have pretty much conquered my AA of going Direct, however I realise Direct has a VERY high blowout rate, and you need a very thick skin to not let yourself get affected by blowouts.

Also, the other thing I learned is that you never know how the approach is gonna go until you approach. And you never know if it's gonna be a good response or a total blowout until you approach.

With all these approaches, I had good tone of voice, solid eye contact, a little smile, and non-fidgity body language. So I think it was a pretty good learning day.

Next step is to work on taking the conversations further with girls that do respond positively to my Direct approach. Also I want to up the sexual talk by saying stuff like "we should get together next week and exchange orgasms" and "do you fuck as good as you walk?" or "do you fuck as good as you smoke?".

I am by no means, a pua yet.. but I have been working on my inner game and studying the art of pua for about 3 months so far, with no real field experience yet with my current knowledge, so take my words for what they are..

but it seems you keep trying the same exact, if not the same type of direct approach everytime, with little to no success.. maybe the reason you are getting turned down most of the time is your methods, and not simply the idea that direct approaches yield low success rates. Change it up, experiment with all kinds of direct lines, I mean since you have conquered your AA with women in public... Go crazy man. You will most likely find a direct 'niche' that has a much higher success than what you are getting now. Also, accepting the fact that getting turned down might happen and not caring is one thing... but accepting the idea that you will most likely get turned down is kind of counter productive.

This Guitar dude deserves a round of applause...surely, he has done what lot of us took months or maybe years to get the guts to do.
Hats off to him...he is surely on the right track.

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Approach 16
Me and KEYS went for another drive looking for HBs to approach. Saw a 2 set sat on a bench, so we pulled over and I got out and approached. As I walked over they saw me approaching, and I deliberately gave them eye contact and a smile, then said "Hi...you're the most beautiful girls I've seen all day". Their faces lit up and I got into a conversation, and they said "You're dead cute". However, they were too young (although they looked about 21), so I ejected and wished them a fun night.

Keep it up man!

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Approach 17, Sunday 1st June 2008
In Liverpool city centre during day game. Approached lone wolf with similar approaches to above.

The next 3 approaches were walking around Chester for day game, with an Irish friend of mine who is something of a natural (although he is aware of ths PU community).

Approach 18, Tuesday 3rd June 2008
2 set oriental girls standing on street. My friend had a hard time believing it was possible to approach HBS in the daytime, and he said "I'll give you 2 quid if you approach those two...". So I approached: "Are you two tourists? I just had to come over and say hello because you're the most beautiful girls I've seen all day".

They said "Thankyou" and we got chatting. In the end I ejected as they were going back to Manchester later.

Approach 19
2 HBs walking on the street. My Irish friend said they were attractive and asked if I'd open them....so I walked beside them and said "Hi...can I ask you guys a very quick question, are people in Chester friendly?" They were like "Yeah". I said "Ok, so if I talk to you, you won't bit my head off?". They smiled and were like "No, we won't". So I said "Good, well I'm just staying in Chester for a couple of days and I'm out meeting people. I think you're the most attractive girls I've seen all day and I had to talk to you".

They started blushing and we just had an easy, relaxed conversation, I didn't think about it too much I just said whatever was on my mind. Unfortunately one of their friends entered the conversation, which threw me a bit, so I didn't close for the instant date or number, though I suspect I could have got the number or date if I'd tried.

Approach 20
2 set Slovakion girls seated on bench. I approached Direct: "I think you're the most attractive girls I've seen today and I wanted to meet you". They responded well, we got chatting for about 5 or 10 mins, until they had to leave and take their shopping home. I closed for the instant date with no joy.

So basically I am taking the interactions further now and getting some good conversations going, so obviously I am calibrating Direct now. But the next step is to get closes (numbers/instant dates) from the approaches that go well.

I guess that very much depends on what you are going for. Being a MPUA is about being able to pick up THE girl you want to date. Not really take whoever wants you back out of 30 tries.

As more or less every MPUA says, if she rejects you after 1 hour, maybe even 4 dates. You did something wrong in 90% of the time. The other 10% is maybe that her boyfriend just entered the club, she have a boyfriend or just wanted a nice chat. She might have gone back to her newly broken up EX the day after you got her number. Who cares? So more or less you can only blame yourself for having to bad game.

But this is what the MPUAs thinks, personally I am quite still not that good and would be happy to pick up a HB7 out of 30 tries when walking down the street doing your things.

Sidenote: Lets say you are a 6 on looks. Indirect approches give you a better chance gaming HB8-10s while direct approch is probebly more likely to end up with a HB6-7 since you really can't tell who will say no out of the 15-30 tries. But if you are a 10 on looks "Smiles"

Edit: Haden't read the whole lis of comments before posting so adding some things

Indeed an awesome way to get rid of AA, fun daygaming which let you learn alot about yourself and become a more well adappted person, really increasing your "come up with a fast answer" reactions due to not having a planned conversation for the sets. So I guess My thoughts would be that it is probebly harder and you won't get as nicelooking girls but it beats the Sh1t out of Indirect gameing when it comes evolving as a person.

But agian, this is just my theories about the matter. I am still an AFC, dunno why I keep posting really xD I am still having trubbel going up talking to girls. Although this will be my "Smah AA tactic" for the night. Thanks a bounch guys!


Sorry for the typos, in a rush and english ain't my native tongue

Preston Town Centre, Friday 6th June 2008

Approach 21
Woman in Debenhams, browsing clothes. I walked over and said "Hi there, I think you're attractive and I want to meet you". She seemed a bit bugged out by it, and said "I've got a boyfriend", but she seemed ok about it in the end. I said "I hope you're happy with him" then ejected.

Approach 22
Woman outside Debenhams trying to sell electricity. We looked each other in the eyes and before she could give me her sales pitch I said "What you doing later?". She asked "Why?", I replied "We should get together". She just laughed, and tried to run into her sales pitch. I kept interrupting her with "Well, you didn't answer my question, are we getting togther later or not?". She didn't give me a straight answer. I'm not sure if she was married or had a bf (she didn't mention either), but I ejected. It could've just been her socially programmed response to not give me a straight answer, oh well.

Approach 23
About 10 seconds after I ejected from the previous approach, I noticed a HB walking towards me....so I interrupted her "Excuse me, you're the most attractive girl I've seen all day and I want to meet you". She said she couldn't stop and she kept on walking.

Approach 24
2 HBs walking towards me on the other side of the road. I could see them from a slight distance and wanted to approach, so I crossed over the road and when they were close enough I looked one of them (blonde girl) in the eyes and said "Excuse me, you're the most beautiful girls I've seen all day and I want to meet you". There was a pause, then I said "I couldn't walk past without telling you that". Anyway, they seemed pleasantly flattered, but carried on walking.

It seems to me that this "You're the most beautiful girl(s) I have seen all day..." line isn't working, as after almost all of your approach reports I read "I ejected the scene." Try some new conversation starters and see what happens.

- SC

Guitar_Whizz,

I commend your effort! As a result, I’m giving you a free, life-time pass to pualife.com (4 dedicated forums, weekly webinars, 3 ecourses, one-on-ones, and much more). There are certainly guys on this forum who routinely give advice, but probably have little or no day game and can only approach in bars/clubs because their wing is egging them on. You’re a real PUA in the making!

But…

I suspect you maybe coming across like this guy:

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Direct game is about non-verbal communication (body language, facial expression, voice tonality, frame, etc). Without seeing videos of you, I seriously doubt you are conveying sincerity in your approaches. Instead, you are probably behaving like a typical chump, and the women sense this.

When I got into the game around 2003 – 2004, I remember reading Juggler’s ‘How to be PUA’ ebook. At the time, there was one sentence that stuck in my head, but didn’t really grasp: ‘A PUA is like an actor’.

Sometime later, I realised what he meant. When you game a girl, you switch to your sarging state (mental state) and what you say and how you say it should be congruent. Likewise, imagine an actor moving from an action-packed scene to an emotional scene.

So, if you truly believe she is “the most beautiful girl I've seen all day”, is it reflected in your body language, pupil size, voice tonality, facial expression?

Any way, well done man!