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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 6:37 pm 
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Alright, so this last week I fucked things up with two HB8's. Excellent approaches and openers on both. I almost had sex with one of them, but come bridging time, I gave the one i almost had sex with too much attention and she backed off and the other one probably not enough and the same thing happened.

Now, I've got an HB10 - seriously, a fucking model on the line. I've been taking it very carefully and going over these methods and using them and they fucking work, praise the lord. I've seen her at a coffee shop a few times and always got the sense she noticed me. One time she was doing that shoe thing and gave me a glance out of the corner of her eye. Then two days ago I saw her working on something and said I respected her hard work. She was looking for a roommate, so I sat down and talked with her about being that. Apparently she knew this girl I lived with before (who sucks ass). I told her that, and she liked that I was upfront and she actually hadn't spoken to that girl in a long time because she got the same impression. She said we should meet at 700 (her request), and that I should definitely come over even if i 'wasn't going to live there.' At 6:50 I texted her saying that I just got to the gym and would have to do it later, at about 930 (neg). Just didn't want her to wait up. At 929 she texts me saying that we should just do it tomorrow. I call her back immediately and tell her I'll bring a six pack over if we could do it then cause I'm very busy (which is a neg, because a six pack is a very small incentive for an HB10 model). She says she cant because shes gotta go do something and shes not going back there. I say cool, and we'll do it tomorrow, but before I fail the shit test, I send her a text that says, 'wow, i can't beleive the six pack close failed, must be a five star night' (neg). She IOI's with a haha, more like a two star. I don't invite her over because im busy, but leave the door open in case that falls to one star (neg) ha.

The next day came and she flakes on the time, so i just ask for the address at that time and say it's good cause i gotta go to the bank (neg) haha. Eventually, she calls me back and i go to her place. she shows me around and she's wearing this classy but very sexy outfit with the tightest jeans possible. She shows me around shows me the room which is better than hers, and shows me her room (IOI) and tells me I can also use her closet in her room (IOI). I figured that was enough IOI's so she said something like "my roommate and I will have different schedules so we wont really have to be friends or anything"? to which I reply, "i don't know i might want to be your friend i kind of like you" (IOI). From that, she said, "well, i'm dating someone right now so i don't think that could work" (disqualifying me from a nonsexual friendship and negging me). We finish up the 'tour' and i tell her ill get back to her.

She said i was her second choice after this other girl for a roommate whod find out later (this is rediculous). so i just send her a message saying, i only came over there cause i thought she was single and with every other girl roommate I've ever had its been a problem (DHV - and its true to to add move value). So I hoped it worked out with the other girl. She gets back to me and says it does, but also that she doesn't have a boyfriend and that 'we should get a drink some time.' To this I replied, ' or we could just randomly meet at some coffee shop (neg), (was that a shit test? or and IOI? now I'm confused). She said I might see her screeming into the phone at some other coffee shop (yeah, didn't get it either), and I just said, 'i hope not, that would totally kill my impression of you" (neg)

Then she said won't shatter your impression (IOI), I finished with a 'nice, ill only give you my best too then. didn't run 6 mi and lift weights today not to (dhv). Goodnight'

This PU shit is amazing. I have not once complimented her on her looks directly. I did say, 'those jeans are wicked girl' because they were so tight they perfectly showed off her perfect ass, but i never said that directly. Who doesn't like jeans.

So how do I close this beast? If it falls apart in the bridging like the other two then I'll be banging my head on the wall for days. If I pull this, it'll be great for both of us. She's a really cool HB10. Seriously, my heart rate went up just standing in her room there trying to play it cool and not get an erection. I think she could tell cause she gave me a wicked smile, but that was right before she told me she was dating someone and we couldn't be friends otherwise I might've gone for the f-close right there.

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PS - im 27 and shes 29, but said shes 28.


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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 7:18 pm 
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Ok, I dont know what your idea of negs are, but some of the things you were saying were negs, were just conversation. The changing times at the last minute is just kinda rude. So she did the same to you. When she cancelled, you shouldnt have brought up bringing over the beer. That reeeeeeeeeeeeks of desperation. Instead, you should have just said, "I dunno about tomorrow, i am pretty busy..... Ill call you then and we can set up a time to hook up."

You also conveyed that you are into her, which is generally a no no, but that seemed to work in your favor. Anyway, just meet up for drinks with her one night. Because she knows you are digging her she might try to just use you for drinks. Dont let that happen. Remeber to use lots of kino and run some solid push pull routines.

You should be fine.

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She shows me around shows me the room which is better than hers, and shows me her room (IOI) and tells me I can also use her closet in her room (IOI). I figured that was enough IOI's so she said something like "my roommate and I will have different schedules so we wont really have to be friends or anything"? to which I reply, "i don't know i might want to be your friend i kind of like you" (IOI). From that, she said, "well, i'm dating someone right now so i don't think that could work" (disqualifying me from a nonsexual friendship and negging me). We finish up the 'tour' and i tell her ill get back to her.

She said i was her second choice after this other girl for a roommate whod find out later (this is rediculous). so i just send her a message saying, i only came over there cause i thought she was single and with every other girl roommate I've ever had its been a problem (DHV - and its true to to add move value). So I hoped it worked out with the other girl. She gets back to me and says it does, but also that she doesn't have a boyfriend and that 'we should get a drink some time.' To this I replied, ' or we could just randomly meet at some coffee shop (neg), (was that a shit test? or and IOI? now I'm confused). She said I might see her screeming into the phone at some other coffee shop (yeah, didn't get it either), and I just said, 'i hope not, that would totally kill my impression of you" (neg)

Then she said won't shatter your impression (IOI), I finished with a 'nice, ill only give you my best too then. didn't run 6 mi and lift weights today not to (dhv). Goodnight'.

You have no idea what IOIs or Negs are. Listen, it seems to me that this relationship is strictly plutonic between the two of you based on what you have stated so far. I see no game you have ran or any IOIs from her. If anything, she IOD you by bringing up the boyfriend. LOL I think you need to reread the material because you are truly confused about the acronyms my friend.


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my gawd, well is this a push/pull: at 200 today I sent her a message saying, 'suddenly got the urge to take you up on that drink right now but gotta take care of business. No pain, no pleasure, right?' - nothing, no response. Should I just be an ass now and she'll fuck me?

I hate the blur, probably my biggest downfall


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don't think you read it right friend. she said she was DATING someone so if i lived with her, we couldn't be friends. when i backed out and started the 'walk to the door' routine (sales at least - that's what i do). She said we should get a drink and tacked on specifically that she DIDN'T have a boyfriend. Plus i was working some charm on her and she's responding, i left that out though

the whole point is, i was never really planning on living with this girl though used that as my foot in the door to pick her up. so you see, it could be a great pick up story to add to the history books, so no negativity pleez. I'm not going to be her platonic friend, sir, that's not gonna work so its either a great story or another failure to build the next success on. I'd rather it be a great story


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Couple things, take em or leave em i don't care :p

1. Research what negs and IOI are.
2. The boyfriend deal I'm pretty sure was a shit test and you failed it. But somehow she passed it for you lol and brought up the fact that she was in fact not really dating someone.
3. The canceling at the last minute was rude

gl with her hope you do well

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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 2:49 pm 
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Thanks,
I was cool but she been ignoring me since i said, "didn't run 6 miles and lift weights not to (give her my best)" Way too cocky and braggy, even for me. Shoulda just been myself

because she does like me (a little), but she's already seeing someone (probably just started seeing someone aka - new guy)

Anyhow, I got the oneitis now so I should meet some more girls and not think about this one


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I like your attitude (frame).

Are you british? lol a lot of "wicked" in there.

You should definetly lay off the PU terms when you don't know what they are.

You have one-itis already. Now how exactly did she blow you off? I seem to have problems comprehending british... :roll:

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Lay low for a bit. If you keep pursuing her, she is just going to blow you off. Dont text/call/email/message in a bottle at all. Go meet some other girls. In like a week hit her up.

You sound like you are trying too hard. Trying to bribe her with beer and bragging about your workouts are a big turn off. A pua doesnt have to use bribes or material things to lay a woman. They are their calm assertive alpha selves. If she is into you, she will make time for you.

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well pua's do brag (dhv) in a non obvious manner, obviously you were trying really hard...


see kay man i'm trying to concentrate here... sigh ;)

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