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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 7:55 am 
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I kind of like this girl, but i'm extremely against stoners, and something came out the last time we hung out about her not being able to smoke at a concert. She gets straight a's.

I know you have to do what you think is right and you have stick to it. One of my really good friends smokes a lot of dope and we're still good friends, but as soon as he starts smoking I have to leave.

Yes I've tried it, and smoked through out highschool, but it just kills brain cells.

Now I know I won't be in a relationship with her unless she stops, but I suppose for now I can slowly influence her to stop

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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 8:08 am 
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All people are different, some like to smoke some don't. To judge a person based on a habit such as that is often a mistake. Even though she likes to smoke is no reason to say that you wouldn't be in a relationship unless she stops, that seems kind of oppressive.
For example, lets say you like fried chicken a lot. Like its your favorite food. If you were both into each other and she said no relationship until you quit the chicken Im sure you would not take kindly to it.
Now I in no way endorse smoking of any kind nor do I have sympathy for those who do smoke Im just saying you have to deal with the fact that everyone has their own lifestyle which may include things that you don't approve of. If she is a genuinely cool person theres no reason to not accept her just because she likes to smoke on occasion(Im assuming that its just recreational and shes not all gross and covered by a thick cloud most of the day)


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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 8:11 am 
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It's funny b/c i'm actually high SPAM haha. I can understand if you don't think one should abuse it...but why such harshness? Pot isn't nearly as bad as most things people ingest as i'm sure you know this. I didn't smoke for these past 4 days and had a great 4 days i have to admit, sobriety outweighs anything when it comes to being social. But people like to have fun and our definition of "fun" is only due to a change in chemicals, rollercoasters or pot.


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She won't stop unless SHE wants to.

I don't see anything wrong with smoking every now and then.

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interesting

almost every person that smokes I have to say is a freakin moron, I don't want to hear about your dad's friend who is a lawyer or doctor and smokes weed.

I work with some stoners and it is bullshit the shit they do. Its like they can't connect the fucking dots between simple things. The critical thinking part of the mind is basically shut down.

Right now we're just having fun, but I often push the limits of new ideas and I need an active intelligent person that I can trust and bounce my ideas off of them.

A stoner will think of the most organic, non realistic way of doing it with no thought of finance, lets say a pipe dreamer.

I won't let this stop me from having fun with her, and I'd like to get her to stop, because a pua always leaves a girl off better than he found her.

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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 4:57 am 
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So does she make straight a's or is she a moron?


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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 11:04 am 
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It sounds like you hold quite a few misconceptions about marijuana. Honestly, I find what you're saying a little offensive. Hell, drinking alcohol kills brain cells. Do you not date women who drink? It sounds like the 'stoners' you know are a bunch of dipshits. Either way, if you aren't comfortable with her smoking pot, I guess you shouldn't pursue her. Trying to make her change is, in my opinion, not a good idea. If she were smoking crack, I could see your point.

Either way, the poster above me makes a very good point: you're contradicting yourself! If all stoners are stupid, how can she excel so well at her school work? I suppose she's not so different than such and such's Uncle Larry(the lawyer who tokes up) is she? ;)

P.S. My apologies if my post came off as offensive. It certainly wasn't intended to. Good luck(Just not with this.) ;)


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I think the real question you should ask yourself is if she's dumb or not. Since she makes straight As, it would seem that's not the case. Just ask her not to be high around you (the wierd mindset stops when the high stops), or drop her if you're uncomfortable with the fact that she smokes.

P.S. weed doesn't kill brain cells. It's fine to be against smoking but don't spread lies


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If you enjoy snacks, I would just make a compromise. She bakes you brownies and she can put weed in them. That way she can still get high, and you'll have a delicious snack to enjoy while watching Are You Smarter Than a 5th Grader.


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yeah you're defiantly ignorant to the effects of weed. If you don't like it and yet have never tried it ....you're being very close minded. If you say "well i am against heroin and yet i've never tried it" is very different. One is psychologically addicting and one is physical.


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this thread is great. I smoke all threw out highschool. I was an idiot, did many stupid things, weed makes you do nothing. Yeah I've tried herion too, oxycontin, coke, everything. I just don't like people who smoke dope.

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Whatever. It's obvious you wouldn't believe facts anyway.


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If you want to get her to stop smoking, try this :)

In order to get off an addiction, you need to replace the addiction with something else.

e.g. smokers try to replace smoking with chewing gum or sports etc...


very very dry explained i know, but i hope it helps you to get some ideas 8)


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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 2:59 am 
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This thread annoys me and I'm not going to pull any punches. I apologize in advance for my tone.
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Yes I've tried it, and smoked through out highschool, but it just kills brain cells.
No... no it doesn't. None of the medical tests currently used to detect brain damage in humans have found harm from marijuana, even from long term high-dose use. The claim that marijuana kills brain cells is based on a speculative report dating back a quarter of a century that has never been supported by any scientific study.
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almost every person that smokes I have to say is a freakin moron, I don't want to hear about your dad's friend who is a lawyer or doctor and smokes weed.

I work with some stoners and it is bullshit the shit they do. Its like they can't connect the fucking dots between simple things. The critical thinking part of the mind is basically shut down.
I'd like to call attention to your horrible reasoning skills here. You initially disregard the anecdotal evidence of others and then immediately base your argument on... anecdotal evidence. It doesn't work that way. There are plenty perfectly valid reasons why one might want to deem a certain category of evidence as unworthy of proof of a certain position, but you can't just ignore evidence that goes against your beliefs and then use the same type to try and make a point..... well... I guess you technically CAN do it, but it makes you just as big a moron as you suggest "stoners" are.

As for the "critical thinking part of the mind shutting down" thing. Not true. An article published in 2005 states that the majority of evidence from non flawed studies demonstrates associations with short-term and task-specific memory only. So heavy users sometimes forget things. Big deal. It has nothing to do with their overall intelligence or ability to carry on a conversation. Furthermore, another study showed that current marijuana users and recent quitters seemed to have neuroadaptions in certain areas of the brain that indicated that they had higher attention levels than non-users. So there are certain definite positive neurological side effects to go along with the negative ones.

I know it's a hard concept to grasp, but correlation doesn't necessarily imply causation. Have you ever stopped to consider that perhaps the people you work with couldn't connect the dots between simple things BEFORE they started smoking pot? Or that perhaps you were an idiot in high school because you were... in high school... and most kids are idiots in high school?

I have an idea... why don't you try not being such a judgmental asshat? If you don't want to smoke then don't smoke but stop walking around with your nose in the air like you're better than people who do or that you need to go on some self-righteous crusade to make people "better." That way you can accept this girl for the way she is. You'll be happy to have a cool and smart girl and she won't have do deal with being hounded by you and your socially sculpted view of reality... It's a win/win!!


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So does she make straight a's or is she a moron?
I dated a girl that believed that the world blinked into existence 10,000 years ago and every word in the Bible is literally true. She also made straight A's and majored in biology. Yes, she is a moron.

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