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Ok, so my plan is to test out 50 direct approaches in the next week or so. I want to find out whether direct game works in the UK or not.

I've been doing indirect game for a few years and been successful. But I want to take my sarging to a whole new level. Also, I feel somewhat incongruent when I ask a girl a question about something I'm not interested in just as an excuse to talk to her.

So I want to break free from this and just be my most authentic self.

My opener will go something like this: "Excuse me, I think you're cute and I want to meet you" or "Are you single...(let her answer yes or no)...ok well I thought you were kinda cute and wanted to meet you".

However I'm not gonna stick rigidly to this opener; I will just say whatever's on my mind without caring what the girl thinks.


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I've smallchunked direct game into 3 key things:-

1) Just say (and do) whatever is on your mind, and who cares what she thinks or says.

2) I'm the most important person in the relationship (I'm the prize).

3) Be 100% IN THE MOMENT, dominating your surroundings with your personality and postive energy.

In my opinion, these 3 things are all that is needed. If you REALLY LIVE these 3 things, everything will fall into place.

I'm just trying to simplify everything down to what is needed and get rid of all the other stuff that 'clogs my head' and fucks up my vibe.


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Ok, so today I got started with these approaches. I am currently in Inverness, Scotland, which is fairly small city but it was packed full of HBs! I only got 4 approaches in, and to be honest these weren't totally direct....I just wanted to get used to saying whatever came into my head today.l

Anyway, it felt really different today. I felt a strange sense of liberation to not be thinking about routines and all that shit, although I certainly felt a bit more 'nervous anticipation' before approaching. I also seemed to get a lot of IOIs today, i.e. girls looking in my eyes while walking towards me, or girls sitting down at other tables when I was getting a coffee in the food court. I could've done way more approaches too, but I'm still getting used to direct, uncanned game....the only way forward is practice!

APPROACH 1 In the Eastgate shopping centre, I was walking round and approached a HB lone wolf walking towards me...

Me: "Hey can I ask you a totally random question...are people in Inverness friendly?".

HB: "Of course!"

I carried on walking

APPROACH 2
Same as above, but with a different HB lone wolf.

APPROACH 3
HB lone wolf MILF walking towards me

ME: "Hey, can I ask you a really quick, random question...are people in Inverness friendly?"

HB MILF: "Why of course!!!"

ME: "In that case, I'm Guitar_Whizz!" (I stuck my hand out to shake hers)

HB MILF: (Shook my hand and smiled) "I'm Victoria"

Shit, I was a bit taken back at how well this went that I said, something like "Ok, thanks, well I better get going, cya later!", and I walked on.

APPROACH 4
HB college or uni girl holding a bunch of flowers, standing still.

ME: (Looking her in the eyes and smiling) "Are they for me??"

HER: (Big smile and starts laughing).

I carried on walking.

APPROACH 5 [b/]
Fat girl. I'm not even sure I should include this one - we were walking towards each other, and I caught her looking in my eyes, so I said "Hi" and she said "Hi" back. I didn't stop and talk to her though, because she was a fattie!!! Enough said!

So there you go, it was a strange sarging session really. All I had in my head were mindsets rather than openers and routines. Yet I somehow still felt I was 'in my head' a bit too much.

Basically I need to go out and do some more really direct openers, until I've calibrated them and got used to being direct with girls.

The ones above were just to get me started saying spur of the moment stuff, however I am going to use the following opener from now on:-

"Hi, you're the most beautiful girl I've seen all week....and I'd kick myself if I didn't stop and talk to you!".

I was going to try this opener out after the 5 I did above, but I could only find girls in sets or groups. I felt uncomfortable going direct on a set or a group.

A question....if I went very direct on a set or group of girls, surely I'd get cockblocked by the obstacles, if I adressed my opener at one girl. Should I be addressing my comment at the entire group, eg "You're the most attractive girls I've seen all week, and I'd kick myself if I didn't say hello!"....or should I just address the target and ignore the others? Or should I just stick to lone wolves?

See, if this was indirect game, I'd have no problem approaching 2 set or groups, but with direct game it's different as you're making your intentions known, so you can expect more cockblocks.

Anyway, the plan for my next sarging session is to field test the direct opener I mentioned above, introduce myself, then go for the instant date close, it will run something like this:-

ME: "Hi, can I stop you a second....you're the most beautful girl I've seen all week, and I'd kick myself if I didn't stop and talk to you!"

HER: (whatever she says)

ME: "I'm Guitar_Whizz" (handshake)

ME: (bit of banter about what I'm up to today, what she's up to, etc).

ME: "Well I was just on my way to get a cup of coffee, it'd be great if you'd join me"

Then I'll have an instant date. See, the whole thing will only take a minute or so to run, so I can go from girl to girl until I get someone who's interested. It doesn't matter if I get 15 'rejections' if the 16th leads to an instant date. This is the way I'm looking at it now. Fuck all this spending ages on one girl, only for her to decline your request for an instant date or number. Direct and fast is the way forward I think, as it weeds out the uninterested ones faster.

Any feedback would be greatly appreciated, thanks and best wishes!

Guitar_Whizz.


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APPROACH 6
I was heading out to the Co-op shop yesterday evening when I got an IOI from HB, so I said 'Hi' and she said 'Hi' back. After I'd finished in the shop, I saw the HB and her friend sat on a bench outside the shop, so I walked over and said 'Hi...you're the most beautiful girls I've seen all week'. Basically, they hardly even reacted. I followed up with some talk about whatever was on my mind and just got a bit of banter going. They seemed a bit flat and disinterested, and said they were waiting to get picked up, so I ejected.

Anyway, going direct with 'You're the most beautiful girl I've seen all week' isn't so bad, honestly nothing bad happens! Will be out in field again tomorrow so should get at least 5 direct approaches in.


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keep it up man, i've bookmarked this to keep track. im going out 2night...if i dnt feel amog'd by all the other dudes in the club something like a 3-1 girl ratio and ppl who think they the shit i'll try some of this ahahah

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Very interesting and fun! Keep it up :)


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I hate to tell you, but your using more indirect situational openers... Direct game would be, "hey, i just had to come over here because i was drawn to you, maybe you can rationalize this for me.. but yeah, beauty is commoon, ive dated models before.. but for some reason i was drawn to you. What are really rare is energy, personality, and outlook on life, what do you have besides your obviouse beauty?"

A direct opener is immediate and clear you find her attractive and you are talking to her because of this.. You are "hitting" on her.

An indirect opener is anyhting where you are "hitting" on her indirectly and being rather smooth. Direct openers do work cuz its unlike anything she has probably experienced and it sweeps her off her feet kinda thing.. but indirect openers have a greater success rate. Your openers were good situational openers. I dnt suggest using direct game.. there is a time and a place for it and ill suck your cock plz.. usually the mPUA's mix indriect game with direct game later on in their routine as party of comfort building cuz thats when your value and her value must be on an even keel.

this is how it works.. you approach, ur value is lower then hers.. you DHV and neg and false time contraint and ur value is higher then hers and her's drops cuz ur a fuckin amazing guy and she is lucky to have you talk to her.. i wish i was fuckin an amazing guy right now.. that is attraction

Comfort: You reward her compliments with compliments and compliment her occasionally.. escalating her value to make it equal to yours. Subconsciously she will knw ur a high valued guy, but ur building comfort, this stage is inmportant you dnt over DHV or DLV by being too needy. If I bang and suck off 700 fat guys all in the same night or day, this would be a good place to bounce and isolate your target..

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I hate to tell you, but your using more indirect situational openers...
As I said, the first 5 openers were simply an exercise to get me to say what was on my mind at that particular moment instead of using canned/pre-rehearsed stuff.

Approach 6 was a direct approach.

I will be going 100% direct for the rest of the approaches....more to be added soon!
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this is how it works.. you approach, ur value is lower then hers
You are stuck in the 'indirect' mindset.

When you approach DIRECT, you approach with the mindset that your are HIGHER VALUE than her, and that you are choosing her IF SHE LIVES UP TO YOUR STANDARDS.

It's counter productive to approach with the mindset that you're lower value. You have to assume that YOU ARE THE PRIZE!!!

Whether you approach direct or indirectly, YOU ARE HIGHER VALUE!


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As for a group, try walking up if its say 2 girls, putting your arms around them and saying, "You girls are cute, but are you friendly too?"

Also remember direct doesnt mean you have to comment on thier looks...

Walk upto a group and say something like, "You guys have an amazing energy, i just had to come over and find out how you all knew each other."

Some more situational things...

Say if they are taking pics walk over and tell them they look like tourists, then ask if they are...

Just some ideas to help you go into 2+ sets and be more direct.

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Cool stuff.

Maybe try to see how far you can get in the talk just being natural. Just go until you run out of convo, or until you feel really awkward or sense she does, then say nice to meet you or OHHH shit I gotta run I totally forgot I was going to do xxxx.

I would really like to see how far it goes, I bet you'll get a bunch of # closes and maybe even a lil afternoon slay haha.


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Thanks for the replies guys. I'll be adding to this over the next few weeks...watch this space :)


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Great thread :) Can't wait for your next approaches, keep it u man!


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Ok, so my plan is to test out 50 direct approaches in the next week or so.

I will just say whatever's on my mind without caring what the girl thinks.
haha Direct game is the shit. its feel like your high haha you know. You dont give a fuck. Good luck this is a good way to become more natural and plus good good way to build inner game. Some time my friend say damn Artist your so loud. fuck what society think of you LIVE YOUR LIFE!

p.s. it good to see someone going direct game. Everyone should do this. EVERYONE should do this i think its the best way to get use to going in naturally and learning how to talk to women.

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Approach 7, 25th May 2007
I approached this HB walking towards me. I said "Excuse me, can I just stop you a minute?". She stopped, then I looked her straight in the eye and said "You're the most beautiful girl I've seen all day and I just thought I'd say hello". She smiled and laughed, then there was a pause while we looked into each others' eyes. I was sort of lost for words, so I said "Are you single?" and she goes "No sorry", so I said "Oh well, I just had to stop you and tell you that", and then I ejected.

I felt no AA beforehand; in fact when I saw her I thought 'I'm definitely gonna approach her, fucking go for it!!!!'. And I got a rush from approaching her.

Also, afterwards, despite the 'rejection', I felt great. I didn't feel pissed off like I would if I'd been rejected from an indirect approach. And you know what, I also thought that this is piss easy. So easy it's untrue.

Things I could improve on are body language and being more persistant. As it was my first Direct approach in ages I was a little bit 'figity' in my body language, although I did look her in the eye when I did my Direct approach.


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definetely gonna check this out ! :)


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