Okay so the subject kind of sums up what I am asking. When do I start negging a girl? When do I stop?

Those are two things im not a 100% sure about. My main question though is what to say to neg effectively. It seems like I can never think of an appropriate neg at the time. Any advice in this department?

Negging is a tool used to keep a girl in place whenever she starts to get high and mighty (which is most of the time). It's just 'one' way to control the dynamic and keep yourself in the driver's seat.

Unfortunately there is no universal way to apply this tactic because each scenario is different. Some girls take it as playful banter (which means you have a girl with a good attitude), others turn on their b*tch mode and it's all down hill from there. You have to gauge each interaction separately and neg accordingly.

There is countless information out there on negging. I would do some research and look for tips and tricks that make sense.

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A neg is a backhanded compliment. It is a saying that generates interest by creating tension on behalf of the target. It also disqualifies the PUA from the target temporarily.

Negs are an art. The general rule of thumb is, for HB -6, one neg per conversation max. For HB7-8, one or two negs max. For HB9-10, three negs per interaction. The exceptions to the rule include low self-esteem girls- for LSE girls, 1 neg is plenty- maybe too much.

The other use of negs are for breaking through the protection ("bitch") shield. When an HB9-10 is used to being hit on, she develops a *shield* to protect herself from potential suitors. She can be harsh, insulting, etc. On a target like that, you use negs to bust the shield. There's no set number for busting her shield; however, NEVER over-neg. It will kill your set.

There's plenty more to be said on the subject, but that's all the basics I can think off the top of my head.

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Oh yeah...

You neg once at the beginning of the set, and whenever the target gets bored with the interaction. You shouldn't neg at the end of an interaction- it leaves the HB on a bad note.

Also, there are lists floating around the forum that have plenty of negs. Just browse through the sections and you'll find threads about negs all around.

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You neg after you give the Opener, and Waypoint.

Look through the forum for a list of negs.
Remember them and just say them to whatever she says, you have to say them in a playful tone and not serious expression, if you feel scared she might comment back go into a DHV story right away.
Once your in a3, when you have seen 3 Indicators of interest in a2. You lay off negs, if you do more negs after 3 ioi's she will start to think you are serious about it.

"Your such a little shit"
"Your short"
When she is talking "...are you done?"

Those are examples of Negs.

Playful vocal tone. If you act serious, then expect a "Fuck you."

Just wanna add something here... you cannot neg before displaying some value. DHV first, THEN you can neg, otherwise they'll think "who the hell is this random guy and what right does he have to treat us like this".

Just something to keep in mind.

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the key through a neg is to always be playful and dont look like u mean it to much cause then the slap across the face is coming

I was talking to this girl and she said she was going to the circus in a few days and i said ohh youll fit right in. She playfully called me an asshole and kino'd me. Is this an example of a good neg or do you think its too strong?

This is a good example

You should be negging all the way through your routine, you dont have to do it loads, do it more so at the start but still do it now an then after. but when doing this you still need to compliment her to show your interested ( after you have got rid of the bitch shield)

this creates a push pull proccess for her which will make her try hard to impress you, so neg her to shoot her down, she trys more, compliment her for it, then shoot her down agen when she thinks shes safe. its playing hard to get, but dnt play TOO hard to get

Those are pretty bad negs. Really, they are just flat out negative statements. There is no compliment in there, back handed or not. There is no push/pull in the statement, nothing to create tension. "Did he just put me down, or was that a good thing? what the hell?.." is what you want her thinking. You can use full on negs like those above, but it really depends on the conversation situation, what was just said/happened, etc..

Better examples are all over the board, like
"Oh, you get funny dimples when you smile. That's so cute"
"Wow, I love your hair. Is it real?"
to name a couple classics from Mystery..

As for when to use them? Its guidelines.. You can stay with the 1-2 for a 7 or whatever, but I've been playing around with it lately, and have gotten some pretty remarkable results where Ive built attraction with a girl, but the whole time I'm negging the crap out of her, albeit in a very playful manner, all the while not making a single physical move on her at all. Three for three, I've had the girl just jump at me at the last minute and start kissing me strongly.

I heard on some videos on some site (can't remember...I'm on so many PUA stuff) that you can use a neg as an opener, could that work? I understand she may try to qualify herself but isn't there a bigger chance you'd scare her away?

Yes. I usually open with a neg unless there is a reason not to use one. You don't have to open with a neg. But in my opinion I say it is better to open with a neg as it shows alpha male qualities right off the bat.
You can't assume a girl is going to qualify her self after the neg. As she may throw one right back at you, or she may just play along with the neg as well. It is almost impossible to scare away a girl from a neg. You can certain get rejected from a neg tho.

The best way to neg is to dig urself a hole!As long as you keep a smile on ur face ur guarenteed to have everyones attention n when everyone is laughing walk away n its certain the girl will follow.Trust me its tried and tested.Before I said to a girl i wasnt trying to pull her because shes blatantly got a massive vagina!this worked.seriously!opposites attract.just dont pull any punches n act camp as fuck n ull get away with anything.ull def get a laugh neway

Hektik

I negged a girl to much the other night and she thought i was an ass lol. She didnt like jokes

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