This is a simple question. I went out last night with a friend and we go to this club where we meet 2 girls (one girl he knows and has already F-Closed). We literally just passed by (stayed 10-15min), we had to go to another party. The second girl was very quiet, we barely spoke to each other, but she was hot.

So my buddy calls me today and says that he was speaking to the girl that he's already F-Closed, and apparently the 2nd girl was asking her about me and to get my phone number from him. He told her that he would have to ask me first before giving it to her.

I was just about to tell him to give it to her, but then I thought about the game, and I'm not sure if this is the best way. Should I get her number? My friend also said that he can invite them out next weekend where I would then just bump into her. Then I wouldn't need her number. What do you guys think?

Give yourse but make sure she gives you her's (I've seen girls pull a lot of shit).

- Chris

Get hers and you can either give yours and see if she makes a move (generally they don't), or not and just take control of the situation yourself.

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Yeah I figured so, I thought if I just gave my number, then I would have ran the risk of her not calling AND though its no big deal, it shows that I showed enough interest in her that I allowed for my number to be given to her and she never followed through, thus giving HER control of the situation.

So my friend obviously didn't give them my number, and he gets a SMS text a little while ago from the girl that he's F-Closed, which read:

"Hey keep thursday nite open. Amber and I are going to take you and your friend for drinks downtown."
-Susan

Not sure if he's responded to them, but I've only met him recently and Im pretty sure he's not a cockblocker. I want to be strategic in my responses/actions moving forward, I want to convey that I am busy but may be able to make it out Thrusday (I figure no point in blowing the potential meeting off given its a good opportunity and there's already clearly interest).

Now when I meet them, do I go straight into A3? I imagine I would still need to disqualify myself ? ,use NEGS? (which btw, I'm still trying to get good at, last week I got completely thrown out of a set by over-negging and think it was likely perceived as insults, so I need to learn when to use NEGS because I'm seeing that they are very VERY powerful!)

Anyway, I'm pretty sure I have a general idea of how to play this one, but the way I look at it, this one should be a SURE close given the interest already on her part based on only talking to me for the odd min or two. So this will be a good test.

Don't mess with the phone numbers man, or if you already did don't do it again, you IOI her if you let your friend give her the number, then you IOI her again if you try to get her number in exchange. Bad position.

Don't bother blowing them off on thursday, Im getting the vibe that if you do they will lose interest in you FAST. Don't act excited to be there, just be chill, and don't try to DHV by talking about what you would have been doing instead of hanging with them since you obviously chose them over doing it. Be cocky and funny, and escalate kino as soon as possible with playfulness - Make sure you have some cute responses for when they touch you, I don't doubt that she will be trying to hang all over you/

When you get to the place your going prepare yourself to go mingle with other HBs there so you can DHV confidence by opening sets, if she is into you, you will be setting off her jealousy arrousal triggers, you will be able to show you aren't needy since you won't be spending the whole night with this chick.

This way if it goes bad you have other HBs to talk to, and if it goes good you will show her that you are a prize to be fought for, and that she can't just have you like she can other guys.

Don't drink too much, keep your wits about you - its a deceptively intricate situation. Consider bribing the bartender/waitress to bring you shots of water whenever you order gin or vodka.

Good points. Anyone else?

Something to keep in mind when dealing with a woman: try asking for their number before the conversation ends. It communicates to the target that your goal was not to get their number rather than build rapport with them. A significant amount of the rapport you have built up whilst in set could be diminished if you do not continue on conversing with your target even after you have number closed. Stick around after you have got the number is counter intuitive and will reaffirm in their minds that you are not only after one thing.

Remember that you are skilled at attracting women and you need to do what every other man won't.

- Chris

C_n12.. you're right, I suppose I should start doing that... from what I've found, I always get the number when either A)Im leaving or B) she's leaving....

Though I have found a good line to use when leaving is... "I have to go, but we should continue this (and then I pass her my phone)"

I've found it works well, so I don't know how I would bring it up during Mid-conversation.

What do you think?

You should understand how much this "apparently" affects her attraction.
But you can't now because you hadn't seen her.
The risk, as always in these cases, is that now she would feel the buyer's remorse. You should REWARD her now.
From my point of view better now to have also HER # and then be YOU the MAN who call her. In any case going also in a 4some meeting is a good idea, too. Remember to be comfortable and rewarding...

I would just get her number from her friend, then if you meet her again in the future she has to ask for yours. Means the frame and control is all yours, not hers. She likes you, she has to put some effort into the chase

You really don't think yet that asking another man to have him #number IS ALREADY AN EFFORT to be rewarded ???
Who's the MAN ? Who's the leader of the interaction ? Who have to MTH ???

Everybody here knows what MTH mean, isn't it ? It is MAKE THINGS HAPPEN...
I like that concept of Gunw which states that this is the difference between "being a man, not a boy is"...

I agree its an effort, but its an indirect effort. I can get information about people from their friends, just by asking. Perhaps there is more to the OP's position which i am not considering, but I would like them to be brave enough to ask me directly. But then again being brave, adventurous and trustworthy are my top three qualities I want in a women (Not always in that order)

I understand and agree that if these are your tastes these MUST be your wishes. We are here to game the girls we like and I encourage you in doing it.
But the question that opened this thread is just a little bit different.

For girls the social dynamics are different: being adventurous is different than being a player with males. Even a girl who is both adventurous AND a player who approaches boys can feel a lot of discomfort before having sex. This is the reason why men always have to be prepared to immediately MAKE THINGS HAPPEN.
Also take note the fact that was indirect gives even more value to her effort: she risked the social labeling.
And we want to close them, we don't need them to boost our ego.

Ok, this stuff and the last several posts are all ludicrous. You guys make it sound like you are running international espionage, when it really isn't such a big complex deal. The point is to be having fun, not plotting and scheming.

The girl asked for his number: SHE'S INTERESTED! So GIVE IT TO HER! You just make sure to get hers too, cause women are notoriously bad at initiating contact in these situations, as they have developed to think that that is the man's job.

You're gonna be so busy playing these complex games at the onset, that you don't get anywhere because you're so concerned over a little thing like getting or giving a phone number. There are a lot bigger issues, like building sexual tension and attraction, establishing comfort and creating a connection, showing that you are fun and that she would be lucky to hang around with you and have fun with you. I see this in a lot of guys that spend so much time focused on the importance of a first impression, that they never get past it and into anything else. It's like continuously planning out what you're gonna do for the night and trying to make the perfect plans, instead of just going out and finding some fun, so you end up sitting at home all night and never having any real fun.

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"The 'Brick Walls' are there to allow you to prove how badly you want something!" ~ Randy Pausch

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