I've been married (6 years) and divorced. I've always been interested in Social Psychology due to my work. And so "attraction" and "seduction" intrigue me. I've discussed some PUA writings and publications with others my age and older, and I often hear, and somewhat agree with, the fact that the success stories seem to be about some guy getting a blow job in a bathroom, or meeting a hot 20-year-old. Or getting someone's number! And then there's so much advice about how to seduce her once she's at your place!

OK. Here's the thing: I've never had to "seduce" a woman. If she is attracted to you, she will seduce you. And if she's at your place, she already has. Further, does any real man really want to get some bimbo in a bathroom, or a 20-year-old who anyone can pick up just by saying anything.

I'm not against having some wild fun. But classy women can be wild. I had sex with this gorgeous 29-year-old on the Brooklyn Bridge (but no blow jobs in the bathroom.) And I am finally finding that 30+ women are so much more attractive (if they are fit) than dipsy 20 year olds.

I suppose the market in the "LEARN TO BE A PUA" industry is young guys that have never or rarely even spoken with a women. I was lucky, for years I worked on cruise ships as an entertainer and had women every day I wanted. But now, with no more spot light, it's a bit different I read the PUA books and the forums, and I take what makes since and ignore what does not. Everyone is different, and some guys may want to wear pink hats and dance with flashlights, but I think there is a definite market for helping real guys who want to meet MORE real women with proven psychological techniques to replace those that might work on a young girl, but not on one with brains and experience.

Not long ago, but still too long, I approached a Russian beauty sitting with such good posture in a long, sleek dress at a bar. She was about 29 and had a line of guys - mostly boys - hitting on her. After they were done, I smiled and said "What's wrong with you. You could have had any of those nice guys!" She smiled and said: "I know" with a strong accent. "So you didn't like them?" I asked. "Oh no, I liked them very much. Do you want to have some coffee?" "Sure," I said, "I'll have tea." She responded: "All I have at home is coffee." This was amazing. I did not seduce her. I did not ask for her number. I did not have a pink hat or a metrosexual jacket. What I had was an eye for a classy lady. And one who had been warmed up for me by every other guy.

I think, for me, what I like are women who want me. Anyone can actively seduce a lady. But heaven is when she is the one seducing you, and without inviting you in to the restroom for a blowjob. And I believe that being confident, smiling appropriately, and asking questions (as if you are interrogating her, not just trying to talk) will intrigue any woman of value.

The goal of being a PUA is not to seduce women, seduction is a mutual aspect of any sexual relationship, both members take part in seducing the other. The goal is to attract the women so that the mutual seduction can take place, without attraction there is no seduction on either part.
Don't let a few peoples 'stories' that may or may not be true reflect the overall goal of all PUA's, I for one enjoy sex in public places but would never catch a BJ in the bathroom cause a girl that would do that is likely to make you catch more than that. That aspect is merely a matter of preference in women, being a PUA opens you up to all sorts of women in which you are free to choose from.
No seduction, exactly as I said. But whether you realize it or not you attracted her, you did not seem needy and pushy like the other morons. You were cool, calm, and un-attatched to the phenomenon of most men being obsessed with her. You also capitalized off other mens mistakes, which alot of women find very attractive, almost a prince charming if you will.



Remember, attraction is personal and seduction is mutual. Bottom line. That's not just for PUA-hood either, that goes for people in sexual relationships of all types.

I agree with methuzela, these techniques aren't really for guys who never had problems getting a woman's attention or attraction. There are some guys out there who are so bad at approaching women that they could look like Brad Pitt, and the second they open their mouth the woman would be uncomfortable, creeped out, and nervous. We've all seen guys get shut down in bars, I've been shut down myself a few times. These techniques are meant for those types of guys who need solid routines to keep a woman's attention long enough for her to get to know him well enough to like him.

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And once again the goal of a PUA artist is to become an expert in social interactions not only get laid.

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Amen to that Xf, mate a Venusian artist is so much more then how to pick up chicks at the club, its about everything its about feeling healthy speaking to a lady pfft fuck mate I dont have that kind of respect to em, I am 23-you said you prefer older women..every night that I go out older women "try" to suduce me..but I am not into that, 19-26 sure aight thats a good age..older women feeling me creep the living shit out of me.

furthermore I am so tired of the bullshit..women come up with and they can talk about that bs for hours and hours..I am here for me not to learn how to PU. its not hard to pickup a lady the hard parts come after..we all fail, you failed...for me its keeping the one you pickup and devolop something more then sex relationship, but dont get me wrong sex is one of the three corner stones of any realationship, but if you dont have...something incommon your bound to crash and burn, therefor a good relationship should give you more now to qoute mystery, "Health, Wealth and love" on the other hand beeing a PUA can make you successfull in many diffrent areas of your life, it can give you one of three corner stones in your life, such as wealth...because of the social skills that the art requires you could be succesfull as a human beeing and not as pickup artist..so dont judge our trade to quikly, be observant and humble.


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