I know i am new to this forum but i have been doing some pretty extensive reading and i suggest reading the Lay Guide by Tony Clink. It pretty much covers every seduction technique there is.

I was wondering. Is sharing e-books allowed? Like emailing it to each other?

I mean, it's still the same info that we talk about anyway -- just organized into a book. I don't have any that's why I'm asking.

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"This is your reality. It is what you make it"

Yes and no. I think that the guys who are selling the books would like it if you didn't share them (thus forcing everyone to buy the book and giving the PUA more money). I catagorize it the same way as CDs.

You and your friends should all have a copy of it, whether or not you all buy it. Downloading it illegally via a filesharing program is not good.

I have never found anything about the October Man Sequence, but check the Player Guide on Fastseduction.com for a bunch of NLP routines. There is a forbidden pattern called "The Door" that may be October Man. Also there are some funny anal sex ones.

~Kurent

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K.

I going to respectfully disagree with Kurent on that point. There are often a lot of notes on the back of ebooks such as "We've put our heart and soul into this. A lot of us have quit our jobs to perfect this manual." etc etc

The bottom line is that becoming a guru is not like sacrificing your life to join a charity or something like that. It is a very rewarding and relatively easy job to do, and there are no quality controls on the products that are coming out at the moment. Thundercat and David DeAngelo's later writings are prime examples of relying on reputation to sell overpriced products. I find it impossible to have sympathy for people who charge $500 for CD sets. So if anyone wants to fileshare, come on down I've got loads!

That being said......the October Man sequence works a treat. Firstly, though get a basic book explaining NLP and get your inner game sorted out. There's nothing worse than an NLP technique that falls flat on its face. Also a word to the wise, "Forbidden Patterns" by Jack Ellis (which I suspect is where most of you are looking for the October Man sequence) is total horseshit. If you must invest in it, get In10se's original product.

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Signatures are overrated.

I would suggest you to lok after the venusisan handbook incase you got all excite d about the game theknics

though u shoul d read also some oj jugglers

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Que le digo a la muerte, tantas veces llamada a mi lado,
que al cabo se ha vuelto mi hermana?

-"I Can Bend Your Mind"- Sovnarkom

I recommend Men are from mars and women are from Venus: Dr John Gray P.H.D.

It's great to gain insight into how the female mind works and how she works.

LoveJunkie,

read the LAYGUIDE

and fuck ross jeffries books, its just a hook for you to buy more of this bullshit. speed seduction is out.


theres no right or wrong way to do the OMS, or lines to use, its a sequence and you have to improvise accordingly to the situation.

Dude, Bes, Ross Jeffries is one of the Modern fathers of Pick-Up and his school of pick-up works really well and is still very useful to this day.

Yeah, Jeffries shit is good and it works. But you have to admit he seems like such a jerk.

Jeffries' SS is definately outdated, well I'd like to think so. I do most of my sarging and picking up on a college campus and at parties/clubs so its almost unpractical to use any SS while a chick is wasted.

Jeffries also hooks readers with his cheaper books and briefly touches up, leading buyers to buy more of this more expensive CD's and tapes. I'll admit SS works, but Jeffries is definately in this for the money.

Someone posted on a non-pua related NLP forum that he'd been using the gemini pattern. Here's snipet

'well the culturally programmed woman is the one with all the rules and regulations, the do's and dont's, shoulds and should nots, what role society has chosen her to play and what is considered proper for her.
The natural woman on the other hand, is the one deep inside her, the one with all the dreams and fantasies.....'

Now im quite skeptical that these are really that powerful and dont see the big deal.

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To effectively communicate, we must realise that we are all different in the way we percieve the world and use this understanding as a guide to our communication with others.

sup with this OMS thing ? i hear crazy things about it and im keen to read and check it out. if any1 can PM this, ill be very happy.
if you can, if its legal.
i hope it aint some weird shit, you know what they say, curiosity killed the cat

follow your own advice.

would still like to see it a bit, tried google and nothing there.
im not that crazy to go buy it, just curious, so any1 pm me if you can.

follow your own advice.