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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 10:28 am 
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Looks will help you ofcourse.But if you have good looks and no game you will get no where.Game and ok looks is what you need.Any man can be handsome just by being fit and well groomed.Also, if you know how to dress your set.


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well since im good looking i dont have to worry about most of what you said, but that doesnt mean i still dont have to work just as hard in the other areas of my life

im only 5'8", 155 lbs, but i've played sports my entire life and it has payed off like crazy

not trying to brag, but i have 8-pack abs, toned muscles for my size, and good social skills

but we are all here to improve and i've done so much since i've came to this site
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Yeah i don't know if this is usefull... Im sure there is a vanity section somewhere...
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well since im good looking i dont have to worry about most of what you said, but that doesnt mean i still dont have to work just as hard in the other areas of my life

im only 5'8", 155 lbs, but i've played sports my entire life and it has payed off like crazy

not trying to brag, but i have 8-pack abs, toned muscles for my size, and good social skills


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Average Joe, at least you are not Ugly Kid Joe. Haha. Now a question to you PUA's. What is your confident look in a situation when you don't have a wing man or friends around? A "I'm going to kick your ass" look? Or a smiling and laughing having a good time look? Or a "nose up in the air" look? And walking with your back straight and chin up make you look too stiff?


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Apollyon,
I have tried all these looks that you say, and I have found that most girls will in fact like the snobbish look, if you are warm towards THEM and act a bit snobbish towards the others.

I live in a posh area and this is really hard for me because you get to see all kinds of guys in their porsches and ferraris and stuff, and in the clubs I usually go you see really good looking people with style. You see 18 year olds in their BMWs with HB inside and club tables full of drinks and stuff.. Its hard to compete, but a few years ago I realized style is key and I have been focusing on that!

I was average looking in terms of body construction (not too short not too tall, not athletic, not fat, not slim) but I'm lucky enough to have a sense of style in clothes, which of course does NOT mean you need to pay a lot of money for designer labels, you just need to know how to combine clothes and colors.

Over the last 1.5 year I have been working out a lot and I see it has helped me a LOT. So its something i strongly encourage everyone to do. Exercise a lot, it releases endorphines so you FEEL good about yourself, thats one thing, and another is when in a few months your body will start shaping into an athletic build.

You can't change the way your face or height looks, but you can open a few fashion magazines and get some ideas, and work out a bit and you'll see a difference in your confidence and girls will start finding you attractive.

Don't forget however that you need to start hanging out with people who seem like they can get laid. There's nothing worse than 5 AFCs in a club, it strikes really bad and no HB will ever wanna get involved in such a group, so try and talk your friends into sorting their game out or try making new friends in order to go out and sarge.


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If you think you are ugly. People will sense that and will not be atracted to you. its all the state of mind girls really don't care THAT much about looks and even so you get used to how a person looks and it becomes trusting face to look at. its al about character and luckely there is something you can work on.


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I live in a posh area and this is really hard for me because you get to see all kinds of guys in their porsches and ferraris and stuff, and in the clubs I usually go you see really good looking people with style. You see 18 year olds in their BMWs with HB inside and club tables full of drinks and stuff.. Its hard to compete, but a few years ago I realized style is key and I have been focusing on that!
Style can help you but it is not key. I been able to get girls attention from wearing the most plain cloths you could possibly wear and I live in an area much like you do. What is key is how you carry your self.
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I was average looking in terms of body construction (not too short not too tall, not athletic, not fat, not slim) but I'm lucky enough to have a sense of style in clothes, which of course does NOT mean you need to pay a lot of money for designer labels, you just need to know how to combine clothes and colors.
I think what is also very important here is to also dress to your body as well. I can't find a girl would be attracted to a guy that is wearing a shirt that shows off his fat because the shirt is to small on him.


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you dont get it, but you are actually great for being a pua

pretty boys are not alpha per see. usually they are beta actually.

girls dont go for looks, they go for leaders.

you have advantages over a pretty boy.

let me explain:
you open sets and nobody thinks you are a threat. YOU GO UNDER THE RADAR. you can actually open sets without any sexual interest. so you are just a friendly TALKATIVE social guy, with no intentions. this opens LOTS of doors!
then once you are accepted socially (not sexually), you can run PUA material.... and convey that you are the one she's attracted to. BANG you get the girl.

let me tell you something: if you would look REALLY good (a pretty boy), its much harder to pickup women >> you cant work under the radar >> when you approach/open >> the whole set knows whats going on... you are going for the hottest girl (even when you talk to her ugly friend first as a tactic), because its clear from the start. when a pretty boy lowers his value by walking towards a girl, they think he's a loser. that because they thought he had power with his looks, but he just gives it away.
if you are a pretty boy girls expect you to be WAY more advanced in the game (and most pretty boys are not), so they usually fail. yes girls might look at them at first, but at the first error of the pretty boy the girls say "i knew it, its just a pretty boy, forget him"

your pretty-boy/good-looking friend is just bullshitting you. he's actually trying to make you beta and become alpha over you. he probably does not pick up that many girls in real life and just uses your pain to make him feel good about himself that one day he can actually do all that stuff he is telling you. he feels that you get weaker when he tells you how good he is with women. he only becomes alpha because you give him this power. ITS YOU WHO'S DOING THAT!!

practice pua stuff .... approach thousands of women for practice.. (do it alone or with a friend in the same situation) after you've done that (that will take you at least 6 months), go out with the pretty boy one more time and show him how its done... defeat him and get your self esteem back!!!!


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don't worry...im damn hot and women even approach me but once they do im clueless...its like 80% confidence after the first approach is done.
Haha no pretty boy-ness here minorities somehow dont get that label :?


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I think i look hot and sexy
At first, in my AFC years, my friends called me ugly and I actually slightly believed them.( I actually thought i might end up with a ugly chick not a super model!! DAM!) But I didn't want to end up with ugly chicks so I started studying PUA, I realize looks are not important. In fact, I once stole a girl from a tall handsome looking dude(he is like obsessed with her)


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well, i just want to say that im an attractive guy according to a couple of friends (girls), but i dont get many girls...so i gues its about your personality. Anyways, maybe i should start my own topic (and i will), but i have a question. Im, kinda hairy and my skin has a weird texture..kinda like chicken skin. so i was wondering wat anyones experience with this is? you know, do girls really find this to be a turn-off?


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i dont like this post man, i'm not gorgeous and i've fucked hot chicks, i hook up with hot chicks, and i constantly see ugly ppl with hot chicks, am i just really lucky?


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I am a good looking guy with good beliefs but I still cant get women. For some reason they just are not attracted to me after initial meeting. Some girls are all about looks but VERY few. My roommate, lots of acne, red hair, pale as a ghost gets plenty of women. He has lost of firends and is just a good guy. I am good looking, build and drive a BMW and for the life of me I still cant get anything going. It truly is about swagger and personality.

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lol u can do the caveman, so ur just like
"FUCK IT FUCK YOU WHO CARES?" bottom line genetic looks dont matter
looks do matter tho (grooming)
"FUCK STRONG JAWS AND SHIT LIKE THAT" i dunno if that will help u but just try it.


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CLIFF NOTES: realize I'm unattractive through life experience; then list adjustments I've made because of it.


I’m 28, and I’ve basically had to realize that I’m not that attractive of a person. I stand less than 5’9, but I have a slim build but I work out. I don’t have a classically attractive face, although sometimes it can look ok when I’m smiling. I’m the son of two immigrant parents, and the nationality I am is not at the bottom of status in Canada, but it is more of a lower status on. I’ve got the kind of looks where I can win someone over who’s attractive if:
-I get immediate credibility with a good word or intro from a credible source
-there isn’t much competition around competing for a target
-she takes the time to get to know who I am

Realizing that you’re unattractive can be a difficult thing to deal with. Society blasts so many sexual images at us (Maxim, Girls Gone Wild, Victoria Secret, MTV, Beauty and the Geek) and it makes you want to get up and go out and pound some Lindsay Lohanesque piece of ass. Then reality sets in and you remember that your just one of those guys who doesn’t have the looks or the Alpha-maleness to pull it off.

As the years have gone by, I’ve been more reminded of my place in the game of attraction, but it still hurts my feelings sometimes to be reminded. It sucks going out to the bars, and being too timid to approach women. Then the few you actually do get the nerve to approach – nothing happens. No signs of eye contact or interest from slutty or horny women. I’m just not that guy who visually stands out in an appearance based setting.

Rather than continue to feel sorry for myself, I’ve used my experience and knowledge to adjust for my lack of looks. I’m gonna share what changes I make, but feel free to comment or add to them.

Avoid situations where looks are empasized:
-I will limit my time in nightclub to only birthday or stag celebrations. The more time I spend in clubs, the more I’m reminded that I just wasn’t blessed with the strong genetics that women are searching. Online dating is especially based on your picture and looks. If trying to meet girls, I’d prefer to meet through friends of friends, where they can get to know me through my personality, rather than judge me on my looks.

-Take part in activities where looks aren’t emphasized. I play sports, watch movies, play video games and play poker. These games, you can take more value in your skill and just enjoy the activity, rather than be reminded that you’ll never be Brad Pitt. Endorphins from exercise are a great way to make you feel good.

-Avoid hanging out with pretty boy friends. The pretty boys will just take any focus women have away from you. I also have one friend who has to let me know of every situation where women are completely throwing themselves at him for immediate sexual gratification. He’s a good guy, but brags a bit too much. It just sucks to hear how easy it is for him, while I’m high and dry.

-Take the time that I’d use trying to pick up girl to focus on strengthening other areas of my life that will make me more attractive. I’m talking mainly about your career. Chicks love money. It is definitely a huge attraction point along with looks, height, muscles, personality, and status. Take the time to do better in those classes, or perform better on the job so I can get ahead and make up for my lack of being a pretty boy. Also, instead of focusing on going to clubs all the time, you can focus on hobbies and gain more skill at them. Examples would be golf, poker, bowling, video games, kickboxing, etc.

-Adjusting where money is spent. Rather than spending money on going out to the bar all the time, focus on saving up for a condo. Chicks are also turned on by a guy who has his life together. I’m gonna focus on being more achieving/responsible with my life, than being that crazy party boy. The party boy role works, but you have to have the looks/personality/expendable bank roll to pull it off.
dude you are clueless.. while looks help..it's not a big deal. I'm a very good looking guy..in fact I've had many girls call me gorgeous. I am that "pretty boy" type and I don't get the ass I deserve. It's because my game is lacking...I used to get too drunk and aggressive. I was also shy and sort of awkward... Honestly get swole...work out a lot.. get a nice body that will definitely help you alot and DHV because you live a healthy life style...and you are right about money. Get a Condo and a nice car or whatever you have to do and a nice job. I have seen so many ugly guys with 10's then I see them get in to there BMW 750iL and I see why those girls like them. THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS TO BE SOCIAL! Once you go out and meet a lot of people you will notice that it is actually the most social guys and successful guys that get the women..not exactly the pretty boys. Do things to better yourself it's not too much about looks its more about how well your groom and your style of clothing and what not. Dress fashionable and groom well (pluck the eye brows if you have to and shave everyday) get a nice stylish hair cut that fits you best. and just grow a pair and talk and be social and have things to DHV your self and you will be just as cool and cocky as your pretty boy friends and girls will tend to like you..because you are successful and have a sexy attitude


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