Give me your thoughts..hav'nt tried this on the field!

But after aproaching a girl and isolating her after a few mins of conversation..you start looking like somethings bothering you after a few IOI's she will ask you whats wrong..if you've done it correctly and lowered her value..she will feel insecure..then its easy..you just say;

You: Could you do me a favor?

she should now get a worried look or a curious look

HB: umm sure what?

You turn then around and say..
"Scratch my back"

if she does that your in..

Thoughts?

Slip

Alright well I do and don't like this for a few reasons:

Don't like:

It's kind of reverse Alpha attitude. Although this may get a "reverse kino" effect its not really what you should go for. If you initiate the kino on your side.


Do like:

You can't go wrong if she is initiating kino because you know you aren't driving her away by pushing forward too fast.


But this is something I might try in the near future.

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Seduction isn't making someone do what they don't want to do.Seduction is enticing someone into doing what they secretly want to do already.

the reason this might work is; You take command, you make her do stuff for YOU, she is instantly put under you by this..you in more or less do something that makes her feel that her job is to please you, and that instantly activates something in chick brain..ever heard of the expression he's a nice guy? well not here!

ofocurse if she refuses to do it, thats a big setback..but if she does it she is instantly showing herself inferior to you.

B

Great point. Cheers.

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Seduction isn't making someone do what they don't want to do.Seduction is enticing someone into doing what they secretly want to do already.

I mean the back thing is just an expression it could be anything..like here hold my beer..and she holds it..takes a sip from it and you instantly go euhm I said hold it while smiling anyway just make her do something for you anything ..this shit is used in the interrogation of PoWs to break their psy down so they easier can reveal information without any resistance...I belive it can be used in PU aswell just slightly changed and modified...and it should work..no guarantees ofcourse, going to field test this later on and report back on the results..wish me luck.

Slip

might have to try this...

People that try it give feedback so we can Improve it to be a universal thing..thanks.

B

I would not ask them to 'do you a favor'. It is their favor for you letting them touch you.

I would just point and say 'right there, right there'

She is going to say 'what' or just understand and do it or refuse.

If she asks what just say again 'right there, right there'.

By this point if she has not gotten it yet, tell her,

'Scratch, right there'.

I bet she would instinctively reach out and do it since she just figured it out. No clue if any of this would work, but you would not DLV by asking.

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Recommended reading list.

Double Your Dating by DD
(This will work on your inner game)

http://www.freewebs.com/xfman/
(This will work on your outer game)