Hey guys, I'm totally new to PUAs but i have noticed that alot of the strategy is to get a girl to the point where you can run a K-close on her with a good percentage of her biting (aka: kissing lol). Ok, here's my deal. I'm a virgin who never kisses girls unless THEY initiate it...so whenever it comes time for me to K-close high percentage women I chicken out and make dumb conversation! (this happens frequently)

This is the way it works:

K-Close Spectrum

percentage of a girl accepting a k-close
(0 - 50%) - I act flirty but they don't bite
(51% - 75%) - We flirt for 30 sec to 2 min. I don't close. They move on.
(76% - 90%) - We flirt for 2 - 30 min. I drag flirting on too long. Number close. Have officially reached "friend status". They move on.
(91% - 100%) - Girls kiss me. I am stunned and am not a great kisser. They move on.

So like tonight I just got back from a house party (love those) with lots of HB7 - 9. I consistently get to the point where i have lots of girls attention. Like there was this one climax of the evening where I had 3 girls pretty much tailing me...they weren't sluts but they all came on very strong. Instead of K-closing I start asking them about school blah blah and before I know it that look of super excitement is brushed off their faces. They are just waiting for me to initiate but I don't. They leave thinking I'm a nice guy and not alpha guy (They thought I was alpha at first)


Any recommendations? I know I need to kiss more girls to get over this hump. Any good, easy, cheesy K-closes i can run??? As you can tell I am absolutely CLUELESS and INTIMIDATED in this department. I have many opportunities but less balls than the girls hitting on me! =(


BTW I AM NOT GAY FYI! I know you guys are going to say that so I'm just letting you know! hahahaha.

just ask yourself whats the worst that could happen?


and then ask yourself is it worth the risk?

Then don't think about the moment you want to kiss her, makes most of us nervous, just do it.

I think you have it in you

Are you fucking kidding me? Put your hand on the back of her neck, lean in and just kiss the bitch.

Just go for it. If you'll be waiting for some time, she will be wanting it even more. There is the time for action. But, as you can see, too long without kiss = bad.

Don't even use some techniques like mystery kiss close, they are just to save face when there are other people around. I found that if I want to use them, it is because I am not shure if I should kiss, ie I am drunk and talking with female friend. Why not try?

But if you are with This One Girl, just go for the kiss. You don't have to do heavy make out first time.

Nothing bad can happen. Girl may turn her head, shout at you in a playful way etc... and if she is not into you, she will just tell ljbf talk. Is that so scary?

When I first kissed a girl she asked me if I did this for the first time. So what? The more you will do it, the better you'll be.

Remember:
WE ARE MEN.
We have to take action!

Haha. I know it is pretty easy. You are right.

But I need something to help me along...like tonight I was sitting alone with a HB7 who wouldn't stop following me. She dropped tons of hints. I didn't kiss her but she kept hanging around for like an hour. I guess I'm just looking for those 2 sentences to say right before the kiss. I know she wants it but I don't know what to say. =(

Don't say anything god damnit kiss her. Fuck.

Better share with us a secret how to have so many chcnces for a K-closse

Some nights it happens, others it doesn't.

Tonight was great because just as I was working a good set of girls who I was starting to build rapport with, the HB9 of the party who was sitting somewhere else responded VERY well to one of my casual flirty comments as she was leaving...she asked for my number within 10 seconds and said I might be her new boyfriend haha. The HB7's I was working on went crazyyyy...the HB9 basically finished the set for me. They were all ready for K-closes. I just didn't act.

Refer me to some good k-closes if you could. I really am comfortable with flirting...I'm just uncomfortable with escalating =(

If you are so unsure then kiss on the cheek and see how she responds. If the girl likes you then more than likely you are going to get another kiss on the lips.

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Not a PUA just a girl offering my opinions/advice

"But?"
No. And stop laughing. This isn't funny. This is about your life.
Get the fuck off your "But" and STAND UP.

You have two choices:
1. Right Action, RIGHT NOW.
2. Being a virgin for the rest of your life and getting your genes unapologetically wiped off the face of the earth.

Pick one NOW.

Also, stop looking for magic lines. Stop looking for the magic pill. Stop looking for the magic bullet. These silly things don't exist. It's all about actually doing the things you are afraid of. Pickup material and routines aren't fucking magic incantations that puts some sort of spell on a girl. The words itself have no inherent value. It's all about what you convey about yourself through them. If you are doubting yourself and fucking scared ball-less while saying ANYTHING, that insecurity is going to shine through. However, if you are actually going to be a fucking man about this, anything you say will "work."

Chief's ideas are correct, although I feel he could have communicated them a little more nicely... Just man up and be confident

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Time to go to work...

WOW...no that's what I needed to hear!!!

That was insanely true. I'm going to have to reread that a few times to get the full effect. Thank you Chief.

Wow dude and I just gave you an entire point of reputation! noob mistake! =P

If you can get to the point of HB9 asks you for your number then kissing is the least of your worries, just think that she wanted you in the first place as you are and thats all that matters, kissing her wont change a thing!

so what kind of stuff do you do that attracts them that much and especially for HB9 to ask for your number?

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I can consistently attract HB 7-8s, but I think I got lucky with her. I used overly dramatic flattery with lots of kino. She was a Columbian chick and absolutely loved it. She flaked on me the next day (I expected that) but still the amount of tension that she brought to my set was unreal.

Also to clarify, my problem with kissing isn't in private and it isn't on the dance floor. Both of those environments are easy. My trouble comes with public sober events. (ones in which there is not alot of private areas or alcohol/dancing). I'm getting WAY better though. Last night I was about to kiss a random girl but a HUGE cockblock stopped me. I really think this thread has helped me alot. Thanks so much.