Every other weekend or so, My wing, Boss, and I hit up the strip club to game the strippers and waitresses. I always breeze flawlessly through openers, negs, and a routine or two. build some rapport. enough to where she's interested, and sitting on my lap. or pulling me away from other people. meanwhile, lots of kino.

....and then i run out of material. i have to resort to general small talk, which seems forced, or sit in silence. which doesnt seem to affect my game terribly. i atleast number close most of the time.

but it seems a little AFC. help?

thanks guys. good luck out there.

still have the issue. also had it last night with some girls i know through a friend, and talk to on myspace, that sort of thing. but met up with them at a party, and kinda just froze up. couldn't think of anything to say.

help would be appreciated. thanks guys

This happens man.

This is why I try only to run on caned stuff to open, so you get across more easily and then use situational material or stuff that happened to me recently as stories, DHV etc.
Let her/them talk too, listen to what others have to say unless it's totally boring. in that case replace their topic with something canned. It helps calibrating better! Learn some cold reading and learn how to mirror their breathing and body-language.

Extremely useful in my view are questions you can ask that give you feedback on a psychological level. they are usually interesting to answer, you can figure out how she thinks and when she asks you the same back she cant get any useful info about your mind out of the answer.

Why dont you play the question game for a little, it's great for comfort building and you can play it as long as you find it interesting. Just google Mystery's question game... or read "Mystery method" the book.

Also, if you run game for 20min without running out of stuff to say, why dont you phase-shift (k-close)?!
That helps bridging some time till you kinda warm up again and can talk on.
This of course sucks in a strip club because the women there are hired guns and make a living on faking IOIs and talking, making out or whatever...

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yea alpha x is right on phase-shifting... or if you think you dont have enough IOI's to phase-shift then try proposition games and bets... great way to build rapport... DHV stories work well too... and really you can talk about anything!!! just as long as u deliver it with energy she will be interested...

I agree with the hired gun statement. I have yet to walk into a strip club where women werent just waiting for one stripper to leave you so she could take her place in the chair beside you. Probably helps that I always wear a sports jacket and dress shirt to these type places and they think I have money. The only real useful practice I have gotten at these places is negging. This is because these girls hear hundreds of drunk AFCs going on about how beautiful they are every week. Negging them and seeing that WTF look on their face is freaking liberating. I love it. I am in a small area so you guys probably have higher class strippers, but closing the ones around here is just a joke. You practically have to beat them off of you. Getting a kiss, or a number discretely stuck in your shirt pocket happens many times during a nite around here, and that is without knowing anything about pua--just dressing nice and combing your hair. So my point is I don't really think strip clubs are challenging enough. You don't even get to deal with your AA because they approach you.

Oh, but there is this one game me and my buddies will play at strip clubs that is absolutely freaking fun. If we are going to a place we are not known, and don't plan to come back to for quite a while, we will sometimes play a character game. We all commit to a character and see how well we can pull it off with the girls at the strip club. I usually play a guy from Austria or something that is here on business and wanted to see what american girls were all about. I have a buddy that always claims to be a major league baseball player and pulls that off pretty well. There are hundreds of characters you can pick. We act as if we don't know each other in the club and pretend like we are there by ourselves or with a wing. If you can pull this off all the way through the night without getting caught its fun as hell. If you get caught, you can look like an idiot though, but who the hell cares. This is a great opportunity to try out things you wouldn't normally do because you are playing a role and therefore your character risks getting the negative consequences not you. I don't know. Maybe this is retarded. It was just something that me and some college buds did without knowing anything about PU. You would be surprised at how much attention a foreigh guy who wants to learn the ways of American women can get though.