Allow me to clear up some misconceptions about the hypnotic art of Speed Seduction.

Yes, Speed Seduction uses Neurolinguistic Programming (NLP) to put people into trances so that you may guide the subconscious, but it's not about manipulation. It's not about mind control. It's not about forcing people to think a certain way and it's not about limiting anyone's options.

If you've ever performed music in front of people, you'll get this. What's it like when you listen to music? Guess what? You go into a trance. You can allow yourself to feel the emotions that the musician is conveying. If you've ever performed an emotionally charged song in front of anyone, you have put them into a shared trance ("shared," meaning that you are feeling it, too).

Music is a powerful art that can move people to tears or fill them with an overflowing feeling of joy. What happens when a musician performs a song without feeling the emotion himself? Right, he fails to convey the emotion and fails to affect the audience emotionally. The same goes with Speed Seduction. There is a very important rule for putting people in trances called "you go first."

Using Speed Seduction is like playing someone a song. You are sharing and expressing a special part of you that others can emotionally connect with. Instead of using the language of music, however, you are using the language of English, which is nothing more than a different medium of communication. With the right mindset, there is nothing ethically wrong with Speed Seduction. In fact, all you are doing is giving the target an opportunity to feel great with a pleasant experience. The basis of Speed Seduction is that if you can make a woman feel great, she'll be attracted to you.

Like music, however, Speed Seduction is a discipline that is difficult learn and master. It's easier to learn the more socially oriented methods in pickup (i.e. everything else lol). It probably isn't worth learning Speed Seduction if you just want to be a cool guy who picks up chicks. However, that is not reason enough to completely disregard Speed Seduction as a legitimate and ethical pickup method.

Is musical performance about manipulation? No, it's about giving an ass-kicking experience, and Speed Seduction is no different.

Chief you're awesome.

And what' the number 1 rule to SS.....

Always leave her better than you found her.

Speed Seduction is very ethical. USE IT!

and I'm so glad that they finally did make a sectoin JUST for speed seduction, love it.

True! But mind control can be used in trance! Ex. You see american flag people think baseball automatically. I anhor Extasy feeling to my eyes. I PERSONALLY feel thats mind control hey but to each'es own! but Trance thats whats it all about. My intire room is set up 2 set a trance!

Minature shelf with red and white tea candels on it, red Xmas lights around my bed, yellow behind my TV and around my far left wall Blue lights around in that. I always get the response "I feel like im at the beach" b/c thats the image THEY CREATE AND Associate with my room. So now My Room=Beach + My Eyes=Great Feelings + The OMS= Hevanly feeling Which all adds up to For HER THE greatest thing ever in her life And for me The cheapest fake vaction EVER!

Now when she sees me she automatically thinks...Beach, great feelings, happyness and when she looks into my eyes lust......Anhoring feeling is REALLY powerful and we do it EVERDAY! Even in pick up when you DHV yourself your anhoring yourself as cool so now when she sees you she thinks COOL GUY! Just some of my personal thought

1. Get a spell-checker.

2. The idea of "mind-control" comes from the perspective of controlling other people. That's not what NLP and Speed Seduction is about. It's about opening doors that other people can choose to go through because they TRUST that you are showing them a good path to go through.

"Mind-control" breaches that trust, limits their options, and takes away from both your and her humanity. You'll get what's coming to ya.

Yeah, Chief's right. NLP and by extension SS don't manipulate the chick, it directs and enables the chick to manipulate herself.

It is based on the assumption that there is a part of everyone that just wants to have sex. Which is true!

Speed Seduction is indeed a form of manipulation. It's just unfortunate that the word 'manipulation' has such negative connotations in today's society.

Everything you do when trying to get a response is manipulation. Whether that be begging, supplicating (like AFC's do), taking girls out to fancy restaurants, etc... They are all things we do to manipulate the outcome (and in most of these cases getting girls into bed). The difference between SS manipulation and these, is that SS actually works.

Every PUA tactic is an effective form of manipulation, but there is NOTHING unethical about it whatsoever. Every piece of advice or state we are told to emulate when in field is for the purpose of manipulating the outcome. Most women spend an hour every day before going out making themselves look as good as possible. This, again, is them trying to manipulate the outcome by making themselves appear more attractive. In my mind, there is nothing unethical about Speed Seduction because you are just 1) making yourself more attractive and 2) leading the woman through an emotion journey with you.

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Chief...you are a living legend. Great comparison.

I've been playing guitar for a few months and whenever I sing a love song to a girl I get the exact same expression as when I run some romantic NLP on them. And if you're doing the NLP right, then it is a shared trance because you need to feel and believe the words you are saying if you want the same emotions flowing through you to flow through her.

Props to you too, Gref.