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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 12:14 am 
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So last night I went to a frat party in my college, and # closed for the first time since I got into this community a month ago. 2 of my friends were playing beer pong against each other with a HB8 and a HB7, and I saw another HB8 standing there watching. So went up to them and stand right next to the girl who is watching and said hi to my friends first. Then I asked her why she was standing here, she looks so bored. So I called next game and asked her if she wants to play, and she said no. so I asked her if she’s a boring person and told her I ll show her something cool, so I did ESP on her and it worked like a charm. Now she’s a little more into me, so I asked her to tell me something cool, and naturally, she said she has nothing. So I said I can’t even talk to you, you are so boring, and turned my head, and guess what, 10 seconds later, she offered to tell me something funny, and her story was lame, and told her that. at this point, another guy came to the table and called next game. then I said I have next game, and I told her I don’t mind if she wants to play next, she said she doesn’t have a partner and of course that’s an IOI and an offer, so I accepted it. Then I told her a really good joke that made her cracking up. During the pong game we had a discussion of who should get the beer, and I told her she’s a sexist to think the guy should get the beer and I can’t even talk to her. I got the beer in the end, but she went to get beer the second time without me telling her. So the pong game went well, lots of negs and kino after each scoring. We won in the end.

I asked her to dance, she said she has to join friends, so I went to the dance floor and danced with other girls. Then I found her at the alcohol place and took a shot with her, then we danced, then she bounced again, and I found her dancing with some other guy. I don’t kno wut that means, so I took it as a shit test, so I did not wonder around, I just talked to my friends and danced with other girls while shes dancing, I thought she saw me but not sure. And this dancing with her then she bounce then I do something else cycle happened 2 more times. Then finally I was about to go, she was just sitting on the bench with those 2 girls and my 2 friends. I went there and sat right next to her and told her im about to leave, and I ll tell her one more interesting thing, so I started to do the CUBE, but when we were just on the second question, my friend Wing asked me to go, so I said sorry I have to go, but we can finish this conversation some other day, so I asked for her name for the 3rd time, and she told me its HOTTIE, I said I bet u don’t remember my name, she said she knows and ur name is COOLGUY. Then i put her name in my phone and I hand my phone to her and said, here HOTTIE, put ur # in there, I ll call u when I have time, she did. And I stood up and gave her a hug and bounced.

Some questions: she dances with other guys= shit test? Or not? Is she into me? What did I do well, what did I do wrong? When should I call her, and wut should I say? how long should the call be? should I still DHV on the phone and neg her, or should I just start build comfort? should I ask her out on the first call??


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 8:00 pm 
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well it seemed that you were following her around which isnt THAT bad if u didnt make it obvious. When she was dancing with the guy you could have came up to her and asked for her hand, gave her a little twirl and bam, shes dancing with you now. Good job getting the phone number, now when you call her make sure its quick, unless she initiates a longer chat but if it gets too long tell her u gotta go....
And tell her that you are going out whenever and that she can come if she likes but under one condition, "make something up". Also i find that phone game is similar to regular game, say something unusual and interesting not like "hey whats up, remember me?". Mention the pong game, she will remember the fun you guys had together...

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 1:48 am 
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well it seemed that you were following her around which isnt THAT bad if u didnt make it obvious. When she was dancing with the guy you could have came up to her and asked for her hand, gave her a little twirl and bam, shes dancing with you now. Good job getting the phone number, now when you call her make sure its quick, unless she initiates a longer chat but if it gets too long tell her u gotta go....
And tell her that you are going out whenever and that she can come if she likes but under one condition, "make something up". Also i find that phone game is similar to regular game, say something unusual and interesting not like "hey whats up, remember me?". Mention the pong game, she will remember the fun you guys had together...

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bro, if u replied just 2 hours earlier, i ll be in the zone. i called her and it was just, wussup nothing much, i went shopping and shit, she was with her friend and they are going to dinner. she did not seem that excited. anyway, that was 2 min into the call, i was like, hey last night me and my friends did this... but before i can even continue, bam, sorry im getting on to the freeway, and i ll call u later. and its been 4 hours, didnt call back. so im in damage control, i mean, i learned my lesson. i dont really care if she calls back, cuz next time i can just make sure i make the call short. if she calls back, wut do i do???


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 9:11 pm 
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well it seemed that you were following her around which isnt THAT bad if u didnt make it obvious. When she was dancing with the guy you could have came up to her and asked for her hand, gave her a little twirl and bam, shes dancing with you now. Good job getting the phone number, now when you call her make sure its quick, unless she initiates a longer chat but if it gets too long tell her u gotta go....
And tell her that you are going out whenever and that she can come if she likes but under one condition, "make something up". Also i find that phone game is similar to regular game, say something unusual and interesting not like "hey whats up, remember me?". Mention the pong game, she will remember the fun you guys had together...

Hope that helps

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bro, if u replied just 2 hours earlier, i ll be in the zone. i called her and it was just, wussup nothing much, i went shopping and shit, she was with her friend and they are going to dinner. she did not seem that excited. anyway, that was 2 min into the call, i was like, hey last night me and my friends did this... but before i can even continue, bam, sorry im getting on to the freeway, and i ll call u later. and its been 4 hours, didnt call back. so im in damage control, i mean, i learned my lesson. i dont really care if she calls back, cuz next time i can just make sure i make the call short. if she calls back, wut do i do???
ok, so she never called back
should i text her
or just leave it
coz im sure i ll see her again, i just dont want it to be awkward, any suggestions? wut should i do/say?


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:35 pm 
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make sure that you never seem upset over the phone, if shes gotta go she gotta go not much you can do. If you text/call her dont make her a big deal, be like "im going to this place tomorrow, i think you would enjoy it". See in that sentence you never said anything like "wanna come? can you make it?when can you go?" or anything that shows you are needy. Again keep it short if you dont have much to talk about cause you dont want to be going like "ummmmm, soo how was your day???"
Thats why texting can be useful sometimes, no awkwardness...


I hope that helps....

P.S: try taking her to some place original, no movies unless you do something before which lets you build attraction first and then once you get to the movie theater you are in a semi-seduction location(ie MAKE OUT!)
Arcades are a really fun place to go with a girl!!!!!!!


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 10:13 am 
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so she never called back, its been a week, should i text her, i feel like if she does not call back, shes not worth my time

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saying that she's getting on the freeway and she has to go is an IOD (indication of disinterest). bullshit. it's like saying she's sick six hours before a date together. she is not going to call back.
Your best luck is one of three *runs and checks SMS templates on his phone*
1. What, playing hard to get already? nice. call me
2. text her "STOP....." & when she replies "wtf?" text "....thinking about me and smiling. See, i bet you' are doing it right now!" (i actually got it from this forum, it's pretty sweet i think.
3. my favorite for this type of situation is to send a blank text. when she replies like "wtf u sent me a blank message?" write "you don't have to make shit up if you want to talk to me ;) how was the weekend, you sober up yet?" (also got this from this forum)

Sorry i don't remember credits for material, but it's internalized and i just use it automatically.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 11:37 am 
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saying that she's getting on the freeway and she has to go is an IOD (indication of disinterest). bullshit. it's like saying she's sick six hours before a date together. she is not going to call back.
Your best luck is one of three *runs and checks SMS templates on his phone*
1. What, playing hard to get already? nice. call me
2. text her "STOP....." & when she replies "wtf?" text "....thinking about me and smiling. See, i bet you' are doing it right now!" (i actually got it from this forum, it's pretty sweet i think.
3. my favorite for this type of situation is to send a blank text. when she replies like "wtf u sent me a blank message?" write "you don't have to make shit up if you want to talk to me ;) how was the weekend, you sober up yet?" (also got this from this forum)

Sorry i don't remember credits for material, but it's internalized and i just use it automatically.
that helps alot, but its been too long, i dont really wanna text her anymore, i already number closed 2 more, and had a day2 today, when i have time i ll write a post

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I usually blank text the girls with whom i haven't had contact in 2 or more weeks. But after a few text exchanges it's imperative that you actually get to speak to her so you have a chance to build attraction, which you obviously failed to do if you haven't talked with her in 2 weeks. I usually try to say something mysterious in the text message so she will take my call out of curiosity. It's all over at that point, get back to regular routine ;)


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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 11:48 am 
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You learned from your mistakes, you got all you could out of the interaction - if you call her or text her or w/e at this point you are just reverting back to your AFC self and are risking the progress you are making as a rAFC/PUA/whatever.

So, good guidlines for both you and I before you think about calling her again ask yourself if she is worth supplicating too. I think not.


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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 10:10 pm 
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You called her the next day???

Well in my opinion don't do that it seemed like you had decent rapport with her but she wasn't really all over you and I prob would have waited a few days before calling her and then when I did i would have kept it short tease her about the night u met for 1 thing that happened and then after that I would have bene like well theres XX going on this night and invited her to that.

People don't really do dates in college I think asking a 20 something chick to dinner a few days after meeting her at a party comes off way to strong then waht hte current norm is. THe party invite is really clutch and is pretty much how I would procede from something like back in college or even a weekday beer pong game at one of the frats or something like that. I graduated 3 years ago so I doubt that much has changed.

Also 1 week your right u gotta just write her off. Another thing to understand is just because a girl gave you her number does NOT mean she is 100% interested in you at all. Getting a number only means maybe 50% that she really has any interest in haning out with you. I know countless girls who have given out their number either because they were too nice to say no or because they were drunk or maybe at the time they thought they would really hang with the guy but then the morning comes and all that changes.

Her dancing with another guy I think your reading into it to much that shes doing it as a shit test for you. Also remember freinds dance with friends it coulda just been a guy who is interested in her and came up to her and shes to nice to just walk away from him or shes just having fun or shes just drunka nd it means nothing so I wouldn't go reading into it. I would ignore it and go dance withs omeone else, go own beerpong and let her see u dominating it, do a keg stand or something else alpha.

Chicks in college are pretty easy the more alpha and king of the party u are; the easier they are. Its very easy in college and high school to get social value and you can thank the makers of drinking games for that. Don't be tooooo alpha though there is a point where u don't want to cross.


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