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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 1:51 am 
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Decided to try things my own way for awhile, kind of forgot about this website and didn't come back, I only remembered things like neg/kino/IOI. i completely forgot about DHV and building attraction but I think I did DHV subconsciously.

So here's the story.

I approached this girl in class, and we went out for lunch one time, and also studied for the final exam together. After that we hung out one evening (went bowling/dinner).
Anyway, I think at first she seemed interested in me, but I failed to build much attraction. I think I've established some kino at least, she seems comfortable around me.

So all of this happens in about a period of 3 weeks. Recently, I told her in person that I found her attractive and I thought she was beautiful.
She told me that she'd like to remain friends, and that she "has a boyfriend now."
I told her that I'd be honored if she considered me a friend and it seems that we've become closer now after I told her what was on my mind.

Anyway, I don't believe her, because she told me she didn't have a boyfriend when I first met her. But whatever though, I don't really care about this boyfriend character.

I know some of the parts that I did wrong, but it would be nice if someone could also point out to me, if I was supposed to state my SOI way in the beginning?

I'm wondering, is it possible to re-game her / build attraction? Cus I find her very interesting still.
Thanks for the support guys.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 2:04 am 
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I told her that I'd be honored if she considered me a friend and it seems that we've become closer now after I told her what was on my mind.
lol :lol:
bad move.
Pump BT a lot and consistently and project sexual state. I bet you can close if you do.

Gunwitch's SECT (projecting sexual state):
Speak like a lover
Eye contact like a lover
Closeness (proximity) of a lover
Touch (kino) like a lover

The more you project sexual state, the more you will align yourself with the image of a lover in her mind. You want to display mannerisms consistent to that of someone she already had sex with, not some comforting friend who plays along to the tune of her nonsexual social conditioning.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 2:22 am 
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well yea, I didn't know what else to say. Couldn't say no you know what I mean? What would you have said differently if she said "let's keep it as friends."

Anyway after that I proceeded to comment on the things I liked about her and she laughed and stuff.
I think it's possible too, but I don't know if she'll be comfortable with me if I try to project sexual state on her at this point (if she really has a BF), you know?

And I'm not pro enough to go BF-Destroying at the moment.
Should I ignore the fact she has a BF? or should I ask her about what her BF is like? I don't know what to do on this part. I was planning to just ignore the fact. Or if she brings it up again I'll be like, "I thought you were just lying"


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I can feel you on that one man - I know the let's just be friends zone all too well. It is the male logic that if he professes his feelings for a woman it will be the ultimate sign of connection. Ironically, guys tend to make this move at their most vulnerable.

Seems like you got the concepts down. Even though you didn't try you knew your stuff subconciously as you said. The one problem with splling your guts with a girl too early is that while you are still building attraction it is imperative that you keep her curiousity at peak levels by maintaining a sense of mystery which leaves her guessing about you. A girl's estrongen causes her to thrive on emotions and have a constant need to feel something every second of every day. By keeping a woman on her toes you are feeding her addiction to her feelings and therby making her feel attracted to you.

Re-gaming is often harder than first-time gaming but you can do it (make sure to watch out for one-itis though). Chief999 was right on with telling you to project a sexual state. You have to do it very carefully though because she knows you like her and if she's attractive she expects guys to move on her after rejection.

If you want to win her back you need to turn the tables. A woman puts a man in the friends zone when she believes she is higher value than him. You need to make sure she knows that you do not need her. That's why a lot of times when a guy gets a new girl you hear about the jealous ex who suddenly wants him back - he has proved his value. Your goal should be raise your value above her's to make her see you as a man who is worthy of her. Use some push-pull tactics next time you see her. In a sense, punish her for rejecting you.

You should always be striving to create a sense of sexual tension and mystery with a woman to make your intentions clear to her mind on a deeper level. A woman can absolutely detest a guy but still be sexually attracted to him because he sets off her attraction triggers - like a guy who beats and abuses a girl who she says she "doesn't want to be in love with anymore."

On the other side however, a woman can’t be friends with a guy and detest him. She has to enjoy and like his company in order to desire friendship. This is because a guy who she wants sexually sets off something entirely different in her brain.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 2:53 am 
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well yea, I didn't know what else to say. Couldn't say no you know what I mean? What would you have said differently if she said "let's keep it as friends."
Dude I haven't gotten the LJBF since...
Well I don't remember.

My point is that you shouldn't get there in the first place. It means you were being needy and/or boring.

You aren't so comfortable with the idea of projecting sexual state to her because SHE is controlling the frame and decided that the reality between you and her is in the FRIEND ZONE. Stop letting her lead the frame. Pull her into YOUR reality.

She's probably lying about the boyfriend, anyways.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 3:05 am 
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iight, your comments have instilled confidence in me once again.
I think I was being more boring than needy. I'm not the needy/jealous type.
Thanks I will take your advice guys.


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