Hey whats up. Im 19, just finished first year of University... didnt go so well girl wise. I guess i was to nice of a guy.

Im average height with pretty good build, If I lose like a really small amount of fat I would be completely ripped I think but its hard to cut out to that level, I do eat well though. I think im pretty good looking, around an 7.5-8.0 out of 10.

Anyway I fell for this chick in grade 10, worked on her for a year just by being nice and being a sucker, then ended up going out with her for around year and a half. Before that I had no luck with girls btw, She was super sexy but I let her walk all over me. University came and I dumped her because I wanted to slay girls in college, thing was she was going to same college as me. Things were bad from there as I realized pretty quickly I had no game and looked like an idiot. I would get with some girls but all really drunk and make up kind of thing. I thought girls like guys who are nice, but all my friends who get mad girls are dicks.

Just starting to read The Game By Niel Stratuss, great book.

I cant wait for the summer to start and use all the knowledge I know now, they should really teach it in school.

Good luck this summer, Dell. It's nice to see that you have come to the realization that nice guys do, in fact, finish last.

sad but tru, im actually in a real similar situation as u dell, kinda funny but gewd luk man

I can totally relate to what you're saying too man, I've yet to meet someone who was as pathetic an AFC as me back in high school. Women know what they're doing a lot more than they let on; they know they're hot and they know that they are making suckers out of guys. Women don't tell a lot of what's running through their minds.

I realy agree with the school thing as well. The problem is that society won't look past it's obsession with political correctness to teach us sexual social skills. Political correctness governs everything. That's why women can cover up faults in their looks with makeup to be sexy but if we conver up faults in our personalities with canned meaterials it's decietful even to the women wearing 10lbs. of makeup. I don't personally condone canned meterials or routines but I do think there is an enormous double standard there.

If you need any advice or have any questions feel free to email me - I read many emails every day from guys like you who want advice and need help and I'd be more than happy to help you out.

Nice guys DO finish last... but you dont have to be a total dick to pick up girls... neg girls, but dont insult them... have an edge and be slightly arrogant, but dont be a pompous prick... use some of the things jerks do, but dont become one

Oh... Political correctness does not govern everything... Aren't you from USA? The land of rock&roll and Hip-Hop Gangstas`? Or from the UK amy winehouse ho'-cocaine-drunk-rehab mood? Everywhere bad-guys/girls do almost explicitly dominate the scene.

But it's a double sided sword. I have a naturally devious-like personality, so perhaps I simply cannot reach your level of sincerity, but it's pretty obvious to me that you can't do shit without messing around a bit, and it's culturally accepted ( and supported ) at least implicitly. It's only that you cannot be straight, or you'll end up being dull.

This doesn't mean you should be an asshole. You can manage yourself to be sincere (lying if you want, but not decieving) it is just a question of knowing who are the ones who you will have a friendship with, and therefore be sincere with. And who are those you will manage outside your area of friendship, but keeping always an overseen eye on everything/one, to avoid getting fooled.

If you do have things clear, and, in addition, you are rather clever, you'll have little trouble with women and socialization in general.

Have you ever heard of Anthony Robbins? He says we have a hard-wired need for psych connection waiting to be triggered somewhere in our brain. If that is so... then you cannot achieve it throug canned material and such. You'll have to inner-game it, finding a way to comunicate sincerely with your selected woman, without losing your value. It reduces to be ( not only appear as ) a suitable partner for her. When you achieve this... then canned material will be obsolete for you.

Lucky sarging!

Tzarkov

I undrestand what you mean, I was alluding more to the "canned" pick up artist than the person's real personality or habits. Girls can get away with a fake (makeup) look but guys can't put on a fake personality.

While there are bad guys and girls left and right that doesn't mean they are accepted in terms of political correctness. Look at Spears, Lohan or Hilton - the behavior exists but that does not mean it is neccesarily accepted. Many people (at least from what I have read) look down on their behavoir very heavily.

There are many things of that nature in our contry. There are thousands of pick up artists out there but many will tell you not to tell a woman what you are doing because she will see you as weird or creepy.

I am from the River Plate... here... that... has a simple solution... We say "Son unos mojigatos" translated as "They are hypocrites"... conveying that the ones who look down on you because you are being assertive, repress what they trully want for the sake of their so called "political correctness". Hence... they are sheepish-losers.

Studying management, you study organizational culture... well, every group has it's particular culture in the way organizations have. Here, there is a permanent vibe coming from "Tango culture" which was drastically individualistic and "PUA"ish if you like. There... you can borrow this stuff from Rock n`Roll values or Hip-Hop... whatever. But you can ally that implicitlly, to have a Social proof on your opinions, and screw Margaret Tatcher-like dumbasses hardcore!

It's not pickup. But you'll find it usefull.


Tzarkov.

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