I think it's really a broad topic.

Cocky and Funny in an arrogant way would most probably backfire with friends who already accept you as 'nice'. If you want to get out of the friend zone, I don't know, but C&F has backfired for me there. Maybe because I only have 3 months of experience with it, but I'm not so sure.

As for Picking up, Cocky and Funny definitely works big time, because it introduces you as someone with higher value.

Hey guys, do you think C&F should be controlled or do you think you should just keep on busting her balls and <stay on the same track, let the women come to you> instead of adjusting your game accordingly?

women force us to play this game. And many of us have to learn how to play it.

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Cat...
your an imbecile...
I think your and AFDSUW...
Averagly frustrated and desperate stupid ugly woman...
Sorry but I think its completly clear that you have never even been approached.

See ya
p.s.: Is it possible that we men know more about women than you do?
Theres a big difference between what you say and what you feel. If a really good PUA came up to you you would probably be the happiest person on the world. Why dont you just leave the forum for good...? That would be best for all of us...

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Cat

Wow! Sounds like your intelligent enought to fall for dumb ass guys-but it's all good! LOL! I'm not here to join the band wagon but I use C&F and it works like a charm. The wow is a neg mixed with C&F. I create my own style, nevertheless does it matter to you? No, why should it!

So I gotta question for ya? Why are you on this forum if you're gonna male bash. There are top mPUA's such as Mystery, Style, Gambler, Papa, Ross Jefferies, David D, David X, Juggler, etc.. etc... Are you pooping words out of your mouth or is it just me.

Men look for PUA to 1) Be more confident. 2) Have more control and knowlege to meet women. 3) Empower their weakness and make them stronger into a better person.

I think you got PUA all wrong. Maybe it could be possibly that the PUA wasn't skilled enough to game you! Or you just found out this site through a friend or some shit.

Lemme guess what you do with you girlfriends--male bash? Wow! Sorry, it doesn't impress me or anyone else. See, you want attention and some kinda validation really! Why? I don't know. You want revenge over some jerk that tried to pick you up and fail-that's my own opinion. I don't know if you fellow mates will agree.

So hows the attention so far Cat? Cat, that's a funny name-I bet you look like a cat...wait! Lemme guess-your Garfield right? LOL!

PUA is about empowering out personalities and making changes with our life so we can approach a beautiful woman. Be yourself, yeah I'll by that. PUA sucks? I won't. Like the guys say it seems like you're relying on your hand too much! Go out and get a date unless you're insecure about something! Ha ha ha!

This is a waste of time talking to someone that's ignorant! LOL! You think you're ignorance is attractive--lemme tell ya...it's a huge turn off for most men. Whadya say boys? Agree or disagree?

I bet you're the kinda woman that's insecure, bitchy and whiny when you can't find a real man-because all your men were damn assholes. Someone that's looking for love in all wrong places with a personality that can charm only a welcome mat so you can walk on over. Get off the forum and don't let the door hit you in the ass! ha ha ha!

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Sweet!
man this post is like older than i am.
She knows this stuff works, you cant diss it. just another bitch that needs a kick up the ass! Thats where her brains are located. She aint no cat, got dog written all over her.

Its all good.

I was watching this programme the other night, there was this bloke (he's an old guy) known for being abit of a ladies man in his past. And they asked him what his secret was. He said just make them laugh and have fun. Its as simple as that, some things never change hey.

Congreve has the words for a situation such as this... "Heaven has no rage like love to hatred turned, Nor hell a fury like a woman scorned."

Was that really worth bringing up a dead thread from the grave?

That's not what she needs up the ass to make her feel better.

It would be great if women like this could be more open minded:

All the guys learning this stuff acted "naturally" with women before...

and guess what?

They didn't attract women.

And yes, it is a numbers game, for both sides.

You're a girl. For women, its about filtering (rejecting) all those guys you don't like who talk to you, until one you really like comes along and talks to you.

For a guy to be in the game, its a different story.

If we are going to be "in the game" we need to constantly APPROACH lots of girls for this to happen. Unlike women, men HAVE TO MAKE IT HAPPEN.

And guess what? We have 2 HUGE problems:

-REJECTION REALLY HURTS FOR GUYS!
-WE INSTICTIVELY GET REALLY NERVOUS WHEN WE APPROACH A GIRL

it takes a LOT of hard-nitty gritty work, just to be able to approach girls with ease! When you're starting out, its so hard it possess your body completely, your body actually makes you feel like you're about to enter extreme danger. It really is that bad!


You also say in your quote to be "confident and secure in yourself".

Ok, what about the guys who simply don't have any confidence? And who aren't even remotely secure about themselves?

An insecure girl will still attract plenty of guys.

An insecure guy will repel every girl within a hundred metres of him.

This makes guys even more insecure and self-conscious!


These techniques are a great thing, think about it.

The "nice" guys you're always looking for but can't seem to find, they're the ones you're just friends with. Those exact guys are learning these things to be able to ATTRACT girls, and these guys WILL treat girls with respect, because they know all too well about pain and suffering.

These techniques also allow for a greater understanding of the dynamics of relationships, and they will in turn eventually result in many longer lasting relationships in our society. We BOTH need to learn about relationships actually, because times have changed so much. No longer is it the woman looks after the kids and talks with other women during the day while the man works and puts bacon on the table. Women and men are considered more equal than ever, and this changes everything dramatically! Women have more needs from men these days, you should be damn well GRATEFUL there are men learning this stuff-it increases your chances of a healthy, great relationship.

My points in summary:

"Acting Natural" for most guys won't get him a date. It will get him rejection. Why? They've been acting natural their whole lives, and still...no date. Think about it

Techniques give men hope. Its their ticket to eventually finding a great girl

Guys have it a shit load harder than you think! They're essentially after the same thing women are-love.