HI all, I'm new to the forum but have been really impressed by all your great posts and I'm learning a lot, fast.

I have a question about an interesting phenomenon I've noticed with a few girls during daytime sarging. When you've established some rapport, they're laughing at your jokes and you go for a number close or an instant date, you might get a line like "i'm waiting for my boyfriend" or "I'm just on my way to meet my boyfriend". Ok that's fair enough, but here's the thing...

Just before she says the word "...boyfriend" you get a little pregnant pause of maybe a second. So it actually becomes "I'm waiting for my...boyfriend"

Has this happened to anyone else? What does that subtle pause mean? Any thoughts or ideas from all you experts out there are most welcome!

Whether she is lying, or not, either reply has the same interpretation.

She doesn't want to take things further with YOU romantically.

The pause might signal that she is lying. People tend to slow down when they are about to lie, because naturally you need more time to think about it.

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Thanks for the responses guys.

Tweeby- good analysis with the lying idea.

Chill - those are some great tricks for really pushing the point and seeing if she cracks under pressure. I'll definitely try those out next time!

one of the things I learned to do at PU101 workshop has been to laugh at that and then continue. Ignore it if you want. If not, touche, have a great day . What I do is...
Girl: "I'm waiting for my boyfriend."
Me: "Haha. Yeah, ..." and then continue on whatever is up. I have had it work atleast twice and seen it work on video of sarges as well.

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Yeah, ive had that happen to me alot, because im always in a hurry and dont try to stick around ive done it as some sort of goal.

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i would tell her "then why are you here when you could be having fun with your boyfriend playing monopoly at your grandmothers place."

If you do your routines and convey enough value, you'll almost never hear the "boyfriend" line, EVEN if she does have one, women make decisions based on their emotions and they rationalize later, that means if you do your job her bf will go right out the door, sad but true. So stick to your routines, make sure you build enough attraction and comfort, get her laughing, go kino ASAP and once all that is in place and she says "I'm meeting my boyfriend" stay in the frame and go cocky&funny and say "then why are you hitting on me when you have a boyfriend young lady" or if she hesitates to give you her number because she has a boyfriend say something like "hey i'm only gonna call you like 10 times a day and breathe heavily in the phone,look i'm not asking for your hand in marriage, we're just gonna hang out", and Stay ALPHA!

How do you tell if the boyfriend line is for real? Or she just wants to get rid of you.

You probably aren't building enough attraction quickly enough because if you build enough attraction quick enough she won't care wether she has a boyfriend or not. You could always destroy her boyfriend wether he is fake or not by ignoring t he fact that he exhists..........

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another way to look at this is

she does have a boyfriend and is an outgoing type and doesnt really care to tell anyone.

or she is wanting to know how you will respond.

and you can respond by saying either what "said poster said"

about keeping her company when your not around.

or you can use the

"great he can cook dinner for us "

I have gotten the boyfriend/engaged line.

Awww - thats cute! you thought i was hitting on you? Im flattered really! So let me get your e-mail/number and the next time i go (to place so and so) you can join me with your boyfriend.

They hardly ever have time to come up with anything to refuse.

I always try to invite them to a public place...clubs,lounges, bars work wonders. Talk about the awesome music and pool tables.

Also, getting myspace info works wonders. Pull a line from Style and tell them to draw a picture. When you call them to invite them neg them on the picture.

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I hate this, the problem is with daygame sometimes there is'nt time to build alot of attraction. Prevention is the best cure, But its still something that could do with some magic trick to get past it. I had it happen the other day and she (HB:5) said she's been going out with him for a week. And i thought after i should have said 'oh so you're married then?'
I'll bump into her in a couple of months and say 'so whats it like being in the perfect relationship?'

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The feeling you get from that line is the worst.

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To me, the key to 'combatting' boyfriend shit is to verbally show disinterest, strong disinterest, while in every other way, demonstrate very high value, extreme confidence (a lot of kino), and then get her number if you can.

A lot of the stuff i read above will get the number sometimes but only so the girl can avoid turning you down to your face. Chances are if you bully the number it will be fake or youll just get ignored when you call. If a girl mentions her boyfriend when you have now shown interest then its pretty much a lock out. Probably an ok idea to ask if she has a myspace or facebook as they can be good tools for a later date.
The one that people dont tend to think as much about is when they mention there boyfriend in an irrelivant topic before you have even displayed interest. That would normally mean in my experiance that they are attracted to you but guilt makes them feel the need to mention there boyfriend. Whether you pursue now is up to your own morals but even if you dont you most likely did a good job so dont criticise yourself. Test by talking to one of her friends and see if she makes the effort to join your conversation, this is a good time to trade myspace / facebook details as asking for a number will make her feel guilty on account of her BF. You can always monitor there single status on there pages aswel.