i still cant post anything in other categories, but i have a sticking point here: so today i went to a 21 club for the first time (im 19). i talked to a 9 waitress, i approached her with a joke saying she looks bored and she told me she works there so i said u dont get much tip do u. she laughed then i took her hand and switched position, now im leanin on the bar she stands, she was smiling and laughing and we told some jokes to each other. then she told me some bs story after i asked her to tell me something interesting. then i did the cube. alot of IOIs, even followed me to sit down. then we talked a little more, i figured it was time to close, so i did styles pen and note pad close, but when i give her the note she said shes not allowed to give costumer numbers, i kno i did something wrong here, but dont kno what. i did throw negs here and there so its not neg, and i had good body language as far as i can tell she was leaning into me. so i told her to stay longer and she did, then she brought up boyfriend so i was convinced i fucked up some where.

Based on what you wrote, You ran an extremely solid game. There are two reasons a woman says I have a boyfriend:
1) She is not interested.
2) She is interested and is shit testing you.


The "I have a boyfriend" comment was a shit test; that's where you fucked up.

- Chris

u mean after she refused to give me her #, she would still shit test me?

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I have (after building interest) failed to get a woman's number and had her test me. If a woman finds herself attracted to a man abnormally quickly she will want to see if you would handle yourself in an alpha manner to see if you could live up to all this attraction you built.

I have had a girl refuse her number to me and tell me she had a boyfriend on many occassion and had her asking for my number minutes later - it's all about handling the roadblocks with alpha behavior.

this makes more sense, thanks GUYS!!

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I dont want to knock your game, but a true 9's working in a club serving drinks...their job is to flirt and show interest.
I not saying she doesnt like you, I wasnt there. And who knows, maybe she isnt allowed to give her # out. It's worth trying to plow through just for the experience, see what happens.

If you want to counter a woman even after she tells you she has a boyfriend and refuses your number you can say something along the lines of, "It's great that you go telling total strangers about these things but I don't want to get too personal just yet but you're moving kind of fast for me - You just seemed like someone worth getting to know." a response I very commonly get after using this line is "what's your name?" do that and BAM you've passed a test.

It always works because it not only let's her know that you are an alpha (confident) with women but it shows that you are not like all those other guys who just say leave pissed off.

first of i like to say good game. Now i would tell her i wouldnt fuck you even if you wanted to. lol KINO fool KINO haha push and pull man she had a stronger FRAME then you thats your problem she was gaming you.

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