Ok, so I went out yesterday evening for an event and met this great girl (HB 8-9). We hit it off and left the venue together and went to another bar. We kissed at the 2nd bar and then we left and I proceeded to drive her home. We made out some more in the car etc (we were both somewhat tipsy), Im trying to figure the best way to put this without being too descriptive. I didnt go to third base or anything but it was pretty steamy (on/off on the way to drop her off).

Anyway, she seemed like a pretty respectable woman so I am now worried that she will feel buyer's remorse (I know I didn't F-Close or anything) but this girl is extremely attractive and she did mention something about guys only talking to girls to hit on them, etc. blaha ? I've made good progess since my AFC days and prob did alot better last night that I would have otherwise and I think she really felt a connection with me aswell. I find this girl really interesting and would like to continue seeing her to get to know her a little more. I've been reading David Shade's book on female sexuality and it talks about this but as it relates to F-Closing and buyer's remorse. Like I said I know I didn't F-close but it feels like maybe we went a little too far (some touching/kissing underneath clothing, etc. *I cant believe i'm writing this but like I said I would defin like to see her again), and I'm thinking when she woke up today she prob thought she had a little too much too drink (I mean she wasn't drunk drunk, but likely very tipsy) and say to herself, "He was a great guy but I shouldnt have put out as much as I did, he'll never really respect me now" ??? She doesn't SEEM easy and appears she has good values. Anyway, I hate to drag this on guys, but let me know your thoughts.

I SENT HER A SMS MSG when I woke up "Hey *her name* , I had a great time hanging out with you last nite, hope ur mom was cool with you being late"

HER response : "She was cool. No worries. yest was great, thanks so much for everything xo"

WHAT ARE MY NEXT MOVES??? I forgot to mention she forgot a lip gloss in my car aswell.

I don't really see buyers remorse coming to be honest. As long as you make her chase you a little bit, and remain conveying non-neediness, attraction should be maintained, and you should be able to get back on the time line.

Agree...
Are you that sorry-looking that you think she might have buyers remorse? lol. I mean, why the hell would you think she would have buyers remorse if it looked like she had a great time without going too far (and from your description of it, seems to be what ahppened)

LOL. No not at all, in fact I think we look good together. I guess I was concerned that even going past making out, etc.. might have been too far for her. Anyway, I guess by the text message response I rec'd from her she had a great time. So I agree with you guys, that moving forward I need to show non-neediness, make her chase a little, etc.. so this is where I'm stuck. The event where I met her was on Saturday, and I sent her the text message (as seen above) on Sunday. What are my next moves?? Call ? Text? As I mentioned, her lip gloss was also left in my car.. should I use that as a reason to contact? I already figured that I'd wait until mid-week at least to do anything (I am of course hoping that she will contact me). Please help!

I hope I'm not sounding desperate here, but please give me some advice moving forward. A friend of mine said that I should call her tonite and not to put it off, because if I do put it off, then she may think that I don't care about her and all I wanted was one thing... PLEASE HELP!

Sounds like some inner game issues to me, but anyway. Give her a call tonight, sure, but whatever you do, don't talk about what happened the other night, she has a memory just as you do.

Say you're going somewhere and invite her along, and then when you're done, find something else that might be fun and tell her the two of you are doing it, and then afterwards take her to your place. This way she'll have memory of you in multiple sceneries, and there will be more comfort and you can continue off

Dude im pretty sure if she said Thanks for eveything ur pretty much sorted.

Give her a text back asking to meet up just dont try anymore of that shit let her know that you were only doing that shit cos u had a few scoops!!

Let her make the first move next time like in terms of hittin that next base!!
Then Plow Her!!

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You definitely need to beware of coming off too needy as you keep saying how much you like her and things like, "I had a great time hanging out with you last nite," will convey neediness.

Unless she shows you that she has buyers remorse, then you need to stop worrying about it. If a girl DOES show buyer's remorse, then you can address it by either moving on, or if it's a matter of her thinking you moved too fast, but she kinda likes you, you tell her that you don't want to move any faster than she's comfortable with and that you were just interested in hanging out with her, but things happened between you guys.

It's something that you basically taylor to whatever her issue is, so unless she is actually feeling buyer's remorse, I think it's a waste of your energy to worry about this. Set up a Day 2 and address the issue if it arises then, but from your story and her reply, I wouldn't expect it.

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Guys ok, all your points are well taken, I guess I never thought that saying "I had a great time with you" would be conveying neediness. For some reason I thought I had to say that to convey to her that I in fact did have a great time hanging out with her and that the physical moment we shared was just something that happened.

So I did call her yesterday evening, and I'm pretty sure she was happy that I called. We got cut off a couple times (bad cellphone connections), and she did call me back, we spoke briefly (maybe 5mins or so, it was a good conversation I think) and then her friend was picking her up so she said she would call me back later. She didn't call back (though this could have been because she was tied up the rest of the night with her friend). Anywayy, I am expecting that she will at least call me or text me today, and if she doesn't, and instead ends up calling me later in the week or whatever, then I figure she'll need to be punished for that? CORRECT? I suppose the best thing would be to just not answer her call if she decides to call me later in the week and return her call the next day or whatever (and of course my reason for not answering was because I am a busy guy with a busy life). Any thoughts?

It seems to me that you're worrying too much about something that's going pretty well.

My only advice is to not worry so much, just relax, as your neediness will come across to the girl if you're not careful.

Exactly. You're trying to engineer it to work better, when it's already working just fine. "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."

If she doesn't call you for a couple days, but there was something you were gonna do and you wanted her to tag along, then you can call her and bust on her for being forgetful, then tell her she should come tag along to wherever you're going. Don't make a big deal out of it, people get busy and forget to call people all the time, important or not (I keep forgetting to call my mom about her birthday and it's 3 days later). You can even just not mention it unless it comes up and just carry on with inviting her to come hang out.

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Ok cool guys thanks! Anyway, I know you're right I'm over thinking this one wayyyyy tooooo much, but I've got my reasons for doing so. hah.a And Rye Lee thanks, you're right I suppose I could still call her or whatever and tell to her come along, as I do have a couple places that I need to go both Thursday and Friday evening. HERE'S A QUESTION, I'm going to a surprise bday party (likely at a bar/club) on friday evening where I have already been told there will be single girls that sorta of know me and are interested in getting to know me more, if I invited this particular girl to the party, and she actually came, would it benefit my situation?? I'm thinking sure it could show social proof, etc.. by mingling with the other girls, etc.. but could I still # close the other single girls at the party with this one there??? If she actually showed up, could this not turn ugly? I'm thinking its better not to invite her to this one.

I'd invite her. It's pre-selection to have other women interested in you. If I'm gaming two attractive girls, I'll kiss the obstacle, so that when I kiss the target, she's seen that I'm already pre-selected and she'll usually try to impress me more.

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Hmm, I know that having other girls interested in me is pre-selection ( a good thing), however, lets not forget that I've already K-Closed the one that I actually like. If she sees me gaming other girls, especially when I've invited her to the venue, won't it make me seem like a player?? I don't want to turn her off me of course? right?

;We kissed at the 2nd bar and then we left and I proceeded to drive her home. We made out some more in the car etc (we were both somewhat tipsy), Im trying to figure the best way to put this without being too descriptive. I didnt go to third base or anything but it was pretty steamy (on/off on the way to drop her off).

ok, first rule as i have highlighted, it aint a good idea to go out sarging drinking, you worrie about buyers remorse, if you feel you opened the set, build confidence and attraction to a high enough level, there should be no excuse fopr buyers remorse, now if she did stud you out, then it sounds to me she may be a bit of a player(slut).

gillie

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