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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 1:43 am 
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*First, I should say I am brazilian and our culture is different. Women are all the same but in social interactions we act a bit (just a bit) different.

So, I'm 18 and I have started using the mystery method about 7 months ago. In fact, it was an adapted version of it so I could work with brazilian social groups better. I've had great success since then.

I'll try to be brief. There is this girl in my college (not my class) who is gorgeous (a 9) and, as usual, she knows she is gorgeous. She is new on my college and I noticed that she looked at me. I didn't try anything because I had a girlfriend and it was a good relationship.
She kept looking (my friends noticed), she gave some subconcient signs and all that stuff.

One day I was on the hall and said to my friend "oh, look, there is (said her name). It wasn't loud, she was very far from us so she didn't hear. BUT, a friend of her was behind us and she heard, I could see it in her face.

Then, a few days later I started to notice that her signs went on even more intense. A friend was observing and said she gazed at me 4 times in less than 1 minute.. I try not to look at her so I can demonstrate higher value.

One day I was in the coffee shop and I noticed that one of my friends was there too. I went there to talk to him.. What I didn't notice is that SHE was right behind him on the queue.. We started talking and then she said to a friend beside her "aaah, these queue jumpers". But the most interesting is that she said it in a funny way, she wasn't upset, it was like a kid teasing another one. Her voice was soft and she said it out loud to make sure I heard. Can I consider this as a neg from her?

Just another example of what is happening: this week I was in the hall of my college.. I was going back to my room which is right beside her's. She was alone right near my room with her hair tied. I did NOT look directly to her but I noticed that when I was getting near she looked at me and untied her hair.

So, we're having a college party in 3 weeks and I want to try something with her. Here is the routine I want to use but I'd like to know from you if it's good and any improovements I could make..

she is alone getting a drink or anything else. I look at her, she will obviously look back (she is always looking at me), I will smile, step foward and say:

"the thing is I'm not like that.. You know, beauty is common. So, how can I approach you if I don't know anything about you? ..you see, it's too noisy in here, I can't hear you.."

and I gesticulate suggesting us to go to a better place to talk.

I know from people that she is VERY hard-to-get and all I can do is talk a lot to win her with words.

My concerns are:
a)The signs she is giving may be just stupid teasing? I sincerely don't think so but you have more experience.
b)Is this pick up good for the context? Consider that she might already know I'm into her.

Thanks a lot and sorry about the long post.


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First off, read other things than the mystery method. It has become too mainstream and it doesn't really teach you the concepts, you just end up relying on canned material. Secondly, Big rule. If you are interested in a girl, don't be shy, or nervous or avoiding about it. By not looking at her, you actually are lowering your value. Wear your intentions on your sleeve. The goal is not to relinquish control over to her, not to avoid her. I would suggest you hold eye contact until they look away in the future. It shows you are dominant. Another big thing, any girl can be had with words, it just takes the right ones. Your approach could work but I think that instead of that, why don't you go over to her and her friends, and work the group a bunch at first. Don't mind the fact she knows. Just do it. Then, after you have become the center of her and her friend's attention, take her away with your line or whatever. I think that is probably a lot better plan.

Good Luck dude.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 11:45 pm 
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Thanks for reading the huge post and for answering it!

Today I was thinking about approaching a group in which she is in.. It's really a better idea! Thanks for confirming it.

I'll fix these details and keep working.

The this is that I didn't know that the fact that she knows I'm interested didn't really matter THAT much.

Now.. do you think that by having a "wrong" behaviour (looking away and stuff) until now I have compromised my success with this girl?

Again, thanks!

(alessandra is awesome! :))


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Nah dude, It will be fine.

I mean, unless she is messing with you, you got some clear IOI's...


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At the party, open with, "Please stop stalking me, its really starting to freak me out." Then when she tries to justify her actions, you can continue with, "Likely excuses, sounds like you rehearsed them." Then go on with whatever you want.

Actually, after re-reading your post, I see the party is in 3 weeks. You better talk to her before the party, but if not, try my advice. But seriously... speak to her within 3 weeks...

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At the party, open with, "Please stop stalking me, its really starting to freak me out." Then when she tries to justify her actions, you can continue with, "Likely excuses, sounds like you rehearsed them." Then go on with whatever you want.

Actually, after re-reading your post, I see the party is in 3 weeks. You better talk to her before the party, but if not, try my advice. But seriously... speak to her within 3 weeks...
Firebird, you're a genious! ahahah
Thanks for the first advice..

It'll be a challenge since I don't have social connections with her but I'll try.

I didn't get it very clear.. can I use your advice if I talk to her or only if I don't?

Refurb, that's my doubt! If she's messing with me I'm fucked up and the whole college will look at me as an idiot. But I think she is not messing up. Everyday I get more IOI's.

I'll keep you informed. I'm sure there are more noobs like me looking for experience reports like this.[/b]


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That opener was for when you saw her at the party, but you can use it before hand to open her up somewhere else. What I was saying is, talk to her soon. Don't let it linger, if you catch her staring again go up to her and accuse her of stalking you. But if you start talking to her now, don't walk up to her at the party and open with it. That would be akward... since you have already spoken to her and will probably be friends at the least.

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That opener was for when you saw her at the party, but you can use it before hand to open her up somewhere else. What I was saying is, talk to her soon. Don't let it linger, if you catch her staring again go up to her and accuse her of stalking you. But if you start talking to her now, don't walk up to her at the party and open with it. That would be akward... since you have already spoken to her and will probably be friends at the least.
Ok! I'll do it as soon as I have the oportunity.

Again, thanks a lot for your help. If there's anything else you can say to help me, it would be even better!


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One thing that is making me freakin' mad is that I just CAN'T know if she is just messing with me or if the IOI's are real!

Is there any effective way to find it out?


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There isn't. But heres the kicker... it doesn't matter. If you approach her and she rejects you, so what? How many other girls go to your school? A lot. And don't worry about word spreading that you got denied, this is college, not high school. Chances are people won't care, college students are mature.

95% sure her IOIs are genuine though. Women aren't out to get men, they don't want to attract a guy just to reject them (unless she has some serious self-esteem issues, in which case you can call her out on it). When you talk with her, don't assume negatives. Assume she is into you and be cocky/funny.

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you will know for sure as soon as some more words are exchanged otherwise im pretty sure she is interested. Nobody would want to just mess around with you for that long....


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