I don't own a car. I actually live in San Francisco and only the super stupid or super rich own cars. Parking fees, limited space etc makes it a bad choice to own or drive a car.

For the most part, public transit is actually pretty good. But still, I know that not having a car can make you seem less important. I mean, how am I supposed to drop her off or pick her up on the bus?

Any advice?

Hey how we all doing?

Are you kidding me if your confident and comfortable with it she will accept it. Also you can DHV it as you caring about the environment. The best Puas did not have cars throughout there entire time in project Hollywood its just another challenge so dont find excuses.

ChowforNow,

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"Whether or not you agree with his harsh, straight to the point mentality, truth be told, he’s the most active/ dedicated / motivating member on this board. He’s routinely getting newbies and current members out sarging, pushing them into sets, given them suggestions and advice, replying to posts more often then anyone else. (Come out Wednesdays and you’ll see what I mean). Also, I have not once heard him making excuses about not going out and pussying out. If anyone else can show me this, I will automatically promote you to any status that you want on this board. (including admin).

Now .. I (and others) .. have tried a more sugar coated / feel good approach to getting guys to come out. Truth be told, it hasn’t worked anywhere close as well. I'm dissappointed that with all the free resources, and the cool guys that we have offering free advice, so few people actually make use of it, go out consistantly, and get better with women, instead of dabbling and keyboard jockeying."

"How did it start?Well, I dont know.I just feel the craving.I see the flesh and it smells fresh.And it's just there for the taking."

"Looking at my own reflection When suddenly it changes Violently it changes Oh no there is no turning back now You've woken up the demon in me"

"Only see, somehow it always seems that I'm learnin' or something I can never be It dosen't matter to me, 'cause I will always be that pimp I see
in all my fantasies I don't know your fucking name.So what?
Let's.fuck"

"Scrutinize every word, memorize every line
I spit it once, refuel, reenergize, and rewind
I give sight to the blind, mind sight through the mind

Ha, good point. People here are nuts about the environment. (Cult-like nuts)

At least they have decent public transit, i live in philly..its horrible here.

You can always tell her to meet you at venue as oppossed to riding it with you.

Plus as you already pointed out owning a car there is not the norm anyway, so its not a DLV to lack one as it is where i live.

Besides the car doesnt make the person, its just a piece of metal. If we learn anything from PU its that money, cars, houses, etc dont get guys girls...they may help but not nearlly as much as we think as AFC's.

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"Be the same, only better."

Very good points. Im glad I decided to check this forum out. I am already starting to view things a bit more differently

I've never been to San Fran, but in every city there's gotta be some walking distance places where you guys can either walk to, meet at, or walk her home from. As far as closing goes, it does seem a bit more difficult but if you've got them in comfort phase it shouldn't be too hard to move to seduction if she is hanging at your place or vice versa. Hope this helps man.

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I wish I lived in the city. If you live within walking distance of bars and clubs consider yourself lucky. I live in the burbs, and driving after drinking is sketchy at best. If you could move closer to the clubs area and walk to where you sarge it would be best, but at lest you won't be worried about getting a DUI.

I don't have a car and I do just fine, stop worrying about it. is mainly in your head

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Good point, but how do we get around that mentatlity as even chicks have the AFC mentality?

Can i ask why your quoting lyrics from Disturbed - Down with the sickness?

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There is Plenty Of Things To Think About.

But Nothing To Worry About.

Steal one?........no.......nevermind......

Take a cab.

just tell her you own a sweet moped