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ok, so this is actually a sticking point, but I coulnt post in on the sticking point section because I dont have over 30 post. anyways, heres my problems.
1) I have a friend who has been my wing for about 2 weeks or so (we just started aproaching, but we spent a while researching shit). The dude is really down and all, but gets alot of AA. He is always trying to open up sets with people much older than us. I think its becasue he feels safe cause he knows it wont lead anywere. Im always wanting to open sets with just HBs our age because even though im just starting out, I want to actaully try to get a # close. I told him that hes always trying to open up sets that will lead no were, but he just got mad. I wasnt trying to be a dick, I just want him to open girls our age.
What should I do???
I'm guessing you haven't been doing this for an extended period of time. The reason I say that is because your wing for 2 weeks has AA and your focused on # closing. These are bad things at all, so please don't take that as an insult, I am just trying to help you evaluate.
I can understand his reasoning for opening those types of sets. When you go out for the night the best idea is to establish prior to entering the venue who is the wing and who is the pua for the night. Then other guy return the favor the next time you go out. When that is established "He who opens the set, controls the set." If that's what he wants to open the so be it.
However, with that being said I'm not a fan of people winging to early in the game. The reason I say this is simple. If you aren't getting laid on your own from this then you are compounding your problems. Let's say your sticking point is # closing, and his is AA. Instead of one set of problems that you might be able to get over now we have two sets of problems. This would be tough even for a mPUA winging a new guy.
With that being said maybe you guys should take some time to work seperately and get good before winging together.
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2) It doesnt seem to be that hard to open. Usually any bullshit routine will get the girls talking. The problem is, I dont really know how to transition into a follow up, without making it ovious that im just talking to them because I think they are hot. for example, my wing and I have this routine were we mention one of us wants to get a girls named tattood. The girls usually have a strong opinion on the matter, so they usually open up. But once they finish up their though, I dont really know how to transition. Cause if I just swich the topic, It just seemes like im just trying to talk to them for no reason now.
any one have any ideas?
You're right if you do an opener with confidence it usually doesn't take much to get things started. Well we are expressing some interest regardless because we approached them. When you say follow up do you mean routine stacking? So let's say you open and the set hooks. Next question should be, "So how do you all know each other?" Figure out the logistics for the set. After that...Oh that reminds me...and start a DHV routine.
The topics don't have to be related. Ever been riding in a car somewhere and your driving down the road and you may be looking at a sign for a fast food restaurant like yum 99 cent cheeseburgers...then next thing you know you're thing about that thing you have to do. The mind makes illogical leaps all the time. When you transition with "Oh that reminds me..." it seems like you just had a thought and it just hit you. It doesn't matter what comes next. Trust me many PUAs friends of mind and myself do this all the time and never get questioned on it.
Hope it helps!
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