ok so i went out with a couple of friends to a new clubs. we were in there for about 15 minutes, when i noticed a hb12 coming in. ok so i broke the 3 second rule by about 2 minutes. finally i broke out of my trance and walked up to her. i opened her and actually conversated with her for a few minutes. then one of her friends came over and interrupted. i talked with both of the girls, but i had no wing. my friends were no where to be found and i ended blowing the whole thing, because i could not get the girl by herself. what could i have differently in this situation

She was so hot she was a 12??? I literally cannot imagine what that would even look like lol.

Hey how we all doing?

You should have pulled in any chode into the conversation and gotten him and your obstacle talking and then isolated. Isolation only needs to be half an inch if it is done right.

Should have told them you were gonna introduce them to your great friends and lead them hand in hand to your friends.

Number closed in front of the obstacle

So many more options.....

As for this supposed comment on a 12 there is no such thing.The number scale is based on looks and that is why a 10 can not exist. Everyone has his or her flaws so the next time you walk up and chat a girl remember her she is just a person like you.

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Now .. I (and others) .. have tried a more sugar coated / feel good approach to getting guys to come out. Truth be told, it hasn’t worked anywhere close as well. I'm disappointed that with all the free resources, and the cool guys that we have offering free advice, so few people actually make use of it, go out consistently, and get better with women, instead of dabbling and keyboard jockeying.'

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'Only see, somehow it always seems that I'm learnin' or something I can never be It dosen't matter to me, 'cause I will always be that pimp I see
in all my fantasies I don't know your fucking name.So what?
Let's.fuck'

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HB12 wow! whats that 12 out of 20? 100?
Did she see you stood there checking her out? Thats another reason for the 3 second rule. But its a rule there to be broken, but its knowing when to brake that rule.
Its kinda hard to tell what happened without knowing how the convo went. But if she is a 12 out of ten, you gotta have your game turned up high, think about it, hb12, single set, bar. She expects guys to hit on her.
But this will happen alot, just work the social proof & it will make hb12's easier

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