I was wondering lately, whether to choose drinking(alot), drinking a little bit(tipsy) or not to drink at all while going out in the night time.
Everybody on this board is saying that alcohol ruins the game, how do you guys deal with that?
When you go out and dont drink people will make fun of you, also if you dont drink enough.

How do you guys deal with situations like these?

I think it depends what kind of drunk you are, and if everyone else is drunk. Gaming a wasted girl while youre sober seems sort of unfair, and doesn't really demonstrate much skill in my eyes.

I'd stick without the booze if i were you. It makes you more responsive to IOIs amongst other things.

if your aim is to shit in someones mailbox or, i dunno, have a wank to the tv, then get wasted..

if it's real women you want, then i'd leave the booze off as much as possible.. get a bit tipsy if you suffer from AA

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Gaming a wasted chick anytime doesn't demonstrate much skill.

Now are talking party, bar, or club?

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I mean in a bar, club and party.
But generally speaking, in the place where i live (austria/vienna).
Everybody gets piss drunk in the clubs and bars, often to the degree where they have to throw up...
I dont really know any places to meet girls in a sober state... any suggestions?

I'd be surprised it "everybody" is getting that tanked. There will always be people getting trashed and there will also be a lot of people that are just a bit tipsy, then there are also people that don't drink for whatever reason (generally because they are the designated driver for the group).

If you're drunk, you can't really game anyone less drunk than you. If you're tipsy, then you can game the field. If you are sober, then you can game everyone, although you might realise that the really wasted girls just aren't worth your time.

I met a nice girl on thursday and she was just the kind of girl I was looking for, so after we had made out a couple of times and I had left to go hang out with the rest of my crew and game other girls, I saw her one last time near the end of the night. She was much less responsive to my game and she said to me in a sheepish manner, "I'm getting kinda drunk." So I say to her, "I know what will make you feel better." and we kissed for a bit. After that, she looked a little more up-beat, but she was too drunk for me to want to keep talking to her and so I told her I'd call her, having gotten her number while she was much more sober and then I took off.

Keep in mind that although people often end up pretty trashed at the end of the night, they take some time to get there and that is when you are gonna want to game them. Soon as they start getting too drunk for you to deal with, you take off. Another option, is to bounce before they get to that point. Take them to a diner around the corner and have a bite to eat.

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Never drink in excess...I used get pretty smashed and still pick up...but now that I am more confident I barely drink when I'm out..if at all. And I have a much better success rate.

I noticed that when I didn't know the game, I was doing better when drunk. But that was only because I had to much AA and wasn't so talkative when sober. So, drinking was a way to get into "hell, whatever, I'll do it" mood.

Now I see how much information is lost because of not fully consious mind - you can't see many IOI's, especially subtle. And, what's even worse, girls may be less drunk and even fully sober, so they will start laughing at you, will not treat you as a potential partner and for the most time it will be almost impossible to game them correctly.

For me, since im still working out my AA problems, I find that a very little bit of liquid courage is available, but once your thinking skills are impared it is just doing you damage. So if you have no AA then best not to drink or a lesson i know i need to work on and have heard that confidence will come is to gain courage w/o the use of drinks. But you also have to play it correctly, if the girl is trashed, you look like a creep being sober picking her up, but what kind of fun is a trashed girl, I have had friends thrown up on and others who had the girls never call back because it was a drunkin one night stand, just work with what you got, and what your looking to get out of it.

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thanks for the help guys, because this topic really was bothering me for a while.
I'd still have one final question that needs to be solved.
What do you do, when your friends encourage you to drink excessively as they do, and they get aggresive on refusal.
That i am cutting down on alcohol, because i want to game better, i dont even have to mention in front of them...



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What I always said to my friends when I stopped was that I was cutting down on drink so that I could lose a bit of weight.

But, I realised that while I lost weight, I saved money and my game got better. Plus, my friends always had someone to drive them to clubs so they were ok with it.

Just think, while your friends are getting drunk, you'll be pulling the women.

Be a leader of men. Don't do it if you don't want to do it. Its that simple. If they get aggresive than step away and find some better people to hang out with. Sounds like these guys will kill your game anyway.

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One thing that suprises me on this forum is how quickly people are willing to ditch their friends if there's a remote chance their game could be harmed. I think we're forgetting that these are our friends.

My friends and I always drink when we go out, I tend to sarge (if you can call it that with my skill!) at the beginning of the night, in the bars, then just relax later on. My skill is gradually getting better later on in the night too, which is good.

Fuck yeah ditch the friends. Did you read his post? Who really wants to hang out with people who aggresivly pressure you into drinking when you are out to chill and have a good time. People who pressure others into drinking are not doing it to be social. Often times they are doing it because they dont want to feel like an alcoholic. So to do that they get eveyone else shitfaced drunk to so they dont feel as bad about themselves.

That kinda behavior is a dlv. Women are not that impressed with that kind of behavior in public. So why hang out with that social circle thats going to make you look like an ass

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