Hey guys, I was just saying how many of you guys have good luck picking up girls from online dating websites. If so, which online dating sites are using? Any tips and tricks for the online dating SPAM? I'm completely new here so anything is helpful ha ha

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I need to qualify that. In NZ I had very little luck, except for the odd one nighter. To be fair I was concentrating on foreign girls because Kiwi girls are well.. bleh mostly.
I did have a German girl who stuck around a fair bit and after 10 years we still talk.

However, when I was travelling in Asia I had spectacular success using a dating site, and hung out with stunning women. The problem was that after being so spoiled I dont settle for anything below an 8 these days. Maybe a 7 after a few beers.
On an asian dating site, for every 100 approaches I got ten replies, and of those ten got to meet one or two face to face, and slept with one.
The ratio is a lot higher on a European dating site as the European woman seems to have a high opinion of their desirability that isnt always warranted. I estimate the ratio of approaches to actual meets as 600 to one.

Not knocking all euro girls of course, just the ones I have been exposed to.
Usually they reply, but eventually they flake. Beware of the long timers on dating sites, they use them as a social group with no intention to meet, but simply seek validation online.

I do have a classic pick up line of my own that works well on a dating site first approach

well, what I take out of this is that I definitely need to head over to Asia and start my online dating career! I also heard that South America is very similar from some of my friends that have gone down there to visit.

In terms of your secret pickup line… Would you want to share it? haha

It might just be a white girl thing including Europeans and Americans where they are definitely more difficult to meet up with.

I definitely agree with you that a lot of people are on dating websites just for ego boost and to chat with people with no actual intention of meeting up with anybody.

That is why I was wondering if anybody has better success with paid dating websites due to the fact that people are probably more serious about meeting one another in meeting up in general as opposed to the free versions.

I ended up checking out eHarmony but it was almost impossible to find prices ( for some reason they are not listed anywhere on their website) A quick Google search brought me to this site: https://online4.love/how-much-does-eharmony-cost/. It says you can get a monthly subscription for as low as seven dollars… Which I found out quickly to not be the case.

After getting all the way through the stupid long sign up I realized it was more like $15 which was quite frustrating. Anyways I ended up not signing up just because of this. Maybe I'll check out match instead. Have it any of you guys had success with match?

Under NO circumstances would I pay for a Dating Site these days. They exist for one reason only, and that is to take your hard earned cash off you.
In reality, if you are average looking and go to asia, you dont need a dating site, you need good grooming, nice manners and a playful approach. You need to be the direct opposite of the rich overweight drunk tourists on sex holidays. Man, I tell you you will wish you had done it years ago.
Age doesnt seem to be a barrier also, because a middle age guy who clearly looks after himself is seen as very desirable compared to the tourists above, or the locals.

As for my one liner for dating sites, hmm, privately I might share it
haha

Let me preface this post by saying that it's very hard to give advice on online dating knowing so little about you. Dating sites are very superficial so if you're not above average looking you're already behind. What country you're from also determines the dating culture as well as your race. I know, I know; it shouldn't matter but the numbers suggest otherwise. You also need to decide what you're looking for; rapid-fire tinder swiping might give quick numbers, but if you're working full time you might as well skip all the signing up and swiping and writing and just go out and approach someone. Then you don't need to deal with all the road bumps that come along with trying to text your way into a meeting, because you are already face to face with with your target.

I'd say having something like tinder as a way to develop your ability to text and be flirty is fine, but I wouldn't use it as anything other than a side-hobby. Oh, and in many Asian countries the pressure is on the women to find a suitable husband since women are more "disposable" hence a much better hit-rate. Man the stories I've heard! Almost makes you want to travel.

Look if you're a little green my advice would be to start out by trying to talk with women. Don't try to do anything other than having a meaningful conversation. Actually listen to what they're saying. Be interested and try to think before you open your mouth. If you can do that you'll already be a good step ahead of most average guys. It will also help you get over some of the anxiety and build your confidence a little.

Just start small. Focus on listening and paying attention to the people you're talking to, men and women, because the information you start gathering from conversations will help you improve much quicker.

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Let me preface this post by saying that it's very hard to give advice on online dating knowing so little about you. Dating sites are very superficial so if you're not above average looking you're already behind. What country you're from also determines the dating culture as well as your race. I know, I know; it shouldn't matter but the numbers suggest otherwise. You also need to decide what you're looking for; rapid-fire tinder swiping might give quick numbers, but if you're working full time you might as well skip all the signing up and swiping and writing and just go out and approach someone. Then you don't need to deal with all the road bumps that come along with trying to text your way into a meeting, because you are already face to face with with your target.

I'd say having something like tinder as a way to develop your ability to text and be flirty is fine, but I wouldn't use it as anything other than a side-hobby. Oh, and in many Asian countries the pressure is on the women to find a suitable husband since women are more "disposable" hence a much better hit-rate. Man the stories I've heard! Almost makes you want to travel.

Look if you're a little green my advice would be to start out by trying to talk with women. Don't try to do anything other than having a meaningful conversation. Actually listen to what they're saying. Be interested and try to think before you open your mouth. If you can do that you'll already be a good step ahead of most average guys. It will also help you get over some of the anxiety and build your confidence a little.

Just start small. Focus on listening and paying attention to the people you're talking to, men and women, because the information you start gathering from conversations will help you improve much quicker.

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No matter how much cats fight, there always seem to be plenty of kittens. ~Abraham Lincoln

Because i can.

I couldnt agree more with Dirty, there is no substitute for face to face, and real flirting.
Online is seen as a game to too many, and you are just another person to validate them, then they flake.

The real deal sharpens your skills socially, and that transfers across to all your face to face contacts, men, women, work etc. Its far more valuable that mastering online game, to me anyway.

Hey man, I'll drop my 2 cents since my first 3 lays and first girlfriend were all from online(myspace). At least 50% percent if not more of my 100+ lay count are all from online. So, I think I'm qualified to talk on the subject.

First rule- Online is all about quantity. Think of it like fishing. You're throwing bait out there, and seeing who bites. This isn't like in person where you just roll up to a girl and start macking. The online world moves much slower, so you must look at that way. Come up with a solid opening message and spam that shit to as many girls as possible. Only once they respond, then really go through their profiles. Depending on what site you're using though, say like tinder, there may not even be much of a profile to look at besides pictures

second rule- speaking about pictures, pictures, especially these days with the world of Tinder, are the MOST important part of your profile. They are more important than the messages themselves. It's your product! No matter how good your marketing is, if you're product sucks, it's that much more difficult to sell yourself. Get some SOLID pictures, no fucking selfies, showing different aspects of your life, ie: social, work, sports, hiking, partying, random cool pics, etc. Just different aspects of your life. Paint a story of who you are. With men, it's not as much about our looks, but it's more about our character. So, paint the picture of the kinda guy you would want to date. After that, get a cool bio. There are plenty of different examples, but depending on the site, you may barely need anything

Third rule: DO NOT BE ANALYTICAL in your bio. Do not list jobs, hobbies, and achievements in some robotic analytical male way. You are not interviewing for a job here. You need to again, just like with your pics, paint a story. Show, not tell. Make it fun, make it who you are. DO NOT tell the girl who you are, SHOW her who you are. Imagine you're the director, and you're writing your movie. A movie doesn't just list some facts, it tells a story. Write some cool shit about yourself.

Fourth rule: GET HER IN PERSON as soon as possible. You don't want to stay online and chit chat for weeks or months or years. The goal is to get her in person as quickly as possible. Build a little attraction, build some rapport, and tell her you want to meet her up. Don't ask her for her # without suggesting a meet up first, the number is just the bridge. Don't get super sexual too quick, or on text for that matter(though sometimes, this rule can be broken, but this is advanced level shit, you not ready for this yet), the goal of this whole thing is simply to get her in person. There you can kino, get sexual, etc.

Anyhow, I tried to give you the broad rules with some specifics. Hit me up in a pm if you have more questions. GL