Listen I use The octoberman I not fucking asamed to tell you and use it!

I incooprate mysterys M3 model but when i get to A3 or C1 i use octoberman/vin dicarlo escalation ladder to fucking close the deal.

I think Octoberman works great with me b/c im a very spirtual and look at everything as energy which is the exact same thing the octoberman is all about. So not only does it fit my personality but i have my ow style of it as well.

Ryan lee tells me its rape and so do someother puas guys! what do you think? it is rape?

I personally believe this falls under the category of date-rape; you're absolutely limiting her choice in the matter, basically forcing her to sleep with you. Even if you _don't_ think it's date-rape, it is a violation of the most intimate and vile kind. She did not give you permission to fuck with her brain, she did not ask you to hypnotize her, and any moral hypnotist on the planet would wholeheartedly berate you for that.

I use hypnosis/NLP in the field. On my wingmen. When they let me. It's a powerful tool to help get over AA or whatever self-limiting beliefs happen to be cropping up while you're out. It is not something that should be used to make a woman take her pants off for you.

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Look, man. This isn't the first time I've seen you mention the OMS.

I would like to remind you that most people don't look into themselves into their more "spiritual" sides to fully understand the OMS. The side of OMS that most people would see would be something along the lines of, "Wow, this is a VERY powerful technique that can make me a pickup god. I can use this to control other people and become the best!"

People who are a little more morally informed would condemn the method itself.

Others, like you and me, have taken a lot of time to genuinely understand the good potential of NLP and "forbidden patterns," but I would like to remind you that most people are not ready to learn ANYTHING about OMS.

I know because I used to see the OMS the wrong way, and I have used it while having the wrong mindset about it. I felt like I was doing something completely wrong and I felt like complete shit afterward. In fact, all of this fucked with my head for a WHILE and it took great effort to mentally recover from it.

Most people aren't ready to hear this stuff, man. You don't have to advertise this.

Like Ross Jeffries once said... "It's like giving dynamite to children." Professional construction workers, etc. know how to use dynamite properly for good and useful purposes. Children get excited by the glorious explosive effects and hurt people and themselves.

To everyone else: unless you are serious about studying NLP and Speed Seduction in general, stay away from forbidden patterns. They just aren't worth it. And even if you are a SS practitioner, you would know full well that "forbidden patterns" are very advanced and should be handled with care by a very experienced practitioner.

I thought that the OMS was a gimmick. If this shit actually does work, somebody has to teach it to me.

And there you have it the first new obsessed person This is axactly why I don't talk or teach hypnosis to people.

OMS is insanely high level stuff and you SHOULD NOT be toying around with it. Not even with parts of it unless you fully understand what it all means, and even then you use it with care.

PS. thanks chief for teh abbreviation was gettign tired of typing the entire name

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I have just obtained the full copy that was released by IN10SE on his website, the full book and audio track plus bonuses. Many people have ethical problems with this technique as has been mentioned above, and my advice is that if you feel like you will be easily tempted to use this on any woman you meet I would advise against purchasing this. However, I will learn/read it tonight, and might try it out tomorrow. However, after reading it, I may find that this isn't something I want to use.

I don't think this forum has one, so after I read/use it I will post a full FAQ and Complete Review on it that should answer any questions.

Happy Hunting.


- Memento

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Good luck. I'm looking forward to seeing what you think of the OMS, Memento.

Guys I appreciate all the replies! THe OMS does excatly was in10se says it does.

1.Creates INTENSE PLEASURE IN HOST
2.DIRCTLY LIKS IT 2 YOU (you really dont even need anchor)
3.Creates opsessed people

My advice for it is use it on a girlfriend/wife ONLY to make you closer and relationship stronger

Other then that its not date rape and it not unethical.....BUT YOU CANNOT JUST USE THE WOMAN AFTERWORDS!!! you must tend to her needs afterwords. This connects on a much depper level then Attraction it connects on a universial energy level. A level of manifesting true happiness. where soulmates become a reality.

My current girlfriend everynight tells me the exact same thing "Can you play power ranger with me?" she dosent know its the octoberman. Me and her are perfect for each other b/c i got 2 skip all that stupid figure out what great about her and i get 2 see the REAL HER! Im satifiest with the results I just wanted some opinins since basically i created my loving girlfriend....Shes happy and im happy in the end isent that all that really counts?

what the f....

im a noob so 4give me, but WHAT is this octoberman b.s? sounds like sum jedi mind trick or whateva lol?

could some1 please elaborate, from what ive gathered from you guys, its evil and the devils work LOL!

so really, what is it?

kk

The grestest thing since white bread! it a "FOBBIDAN" pattern used in seduction part of game! it can be used if you establish A3 or C1 (look up mysters m3 model 2 understand) AND it is basically mind control at the highest level. I creates obssed girls with you. It direclty links you to a womans Identiy of peace, happiness, ecstacy, and all that other great feeling emotins. I have tried it on

1.Girls with boyfriends
2.Girls with husbands
3.Cougars (older women)
4.FRIENDS
5. MY ex girlfriend
6. Raciest girls who dont date outside of their race
ALL WITH POSATIVE RESULTS

It can virtually work on anyone as long as you establish AT THE MINIMUM comfort with a girl where you can talk just 4 fun.

But Its forbbidan 4 a reason and im dealing with problems 4 it now!!!!

The octoberman fits my peronality so im not afraid to use it b/c it relates to who i am as a person. THIS MUST NOT BE USED JUST TO FUCK A GIRL!!!

go ahead and try it if you want 2 and wait till that exact same girl comes back 2 murder you!!!!! You become her pleasure and anything short of you becomes empty to her.

DONT FUCK WITH THIS!! Im the GREEN RANGER since i was 4! Power has been my life. Along with knowlage and responsiblity and a CRAZY KIDZ imagination! The october man is not a toy its dynamight!

Yes it is rape! I must ask that no one reveals the sequence on this forum and if someone does that it is taken down. The woman has no control over what she is doing and therefore it is rape. She feels like shit when she is away from you and this is another reason why it is cruel and disgusting. Green Ranger you are a sick rapist prick.

It is not rape. It is not unethical, or at least no more unethical than sleeping with a moderately drunk girl.
I've been placed under deep hypnosis several times, and I understand it. Under a hypnotic trance you will not do anything that you feel completely uncomfortable with. For instance if while completely conscious you think I would never sleep with that person, then while hypnotized you will keep that inhibition. However if you think I might be willing to, then hypnosis makes opens you up to the idea more.

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It's basically trying to do a 540 degree flying scissor kick in martial arts. That's what doing the OMS in the pickup arts is like.

Anyone who doesn't have years and years of DISCIPLINED training in the basic moves and certain specific techniques can and will severely hurt themselves if they try it.

Don't forget the "giving dynamite to children" analogy.

Ok first of all i let them know ahead of time!! So if they agree then what? Plus i understasnd it from a ethical point of view also

I have been practicing martial arts and meditation for years so i have deciple and responsiblity. OMS relates to all three of these principals. I would REVEAL the OMS if wanted women to get hurt but im not. stop having closed mind since your so unsucessful with NLP and stuff. Other things work better for other people thats what makes winner losers and everthing else! GET OVER IT!