I'm the type of guy that just says the exact truth. Blunt you might say.

Quick example: Someone tells me they are a Psychology major, I respond something like "so you won't have a job when you graduate?"
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I ask my friend a question, and his girlfriend jumps in to try and answer it for him, I respond something like "I didn't ask you, I think he can explain his life better than you can"

I just find it odd that most of the time guys enjoy my honesty while women will usually call me an asshole, jackass, or whatever derogatory term they deem appropriate.

I don't really know why I'm posting this on PUA forum, I figured you guys have an understanding of social interaction and could maybe discuss this or something.

I learned through my experiences of being a AFC that telling women the truth seams to get you no where. Im just like you in reguards to your examples. I'm often labeled as a asshole. Which makes no sense because i just state what everyone is thinking generally. Men you can be bluntly honest with, women you normally just cant.

It's because you just called the girl on her shit test and she doesn't have a comeback for it.

pure bluntness with no eloquence, finesse, or suspense will get you labelled an A-hole often times. More often you will be labelled rude or overly blunt, which isn't necessarily a bad thing. The other things you add to your statement, smile, confidence, and a laugh are also very important. However, to have the most success embellish the short true comment with a mixed message half mean, half kind so it isn't taken too roughly. Its good to still come across as dominant with some flair, just not plain rude.

When you are an AFC, you have to lie to have a chance in getting laid.

When you are a true PUA, you have to tell the truth to get laid.

zomgpp, you're a dick. I'm a psychology major

lol guys

How do you have eloquence while being blunt?

And lol @ me being a dick =] Wasn't aware they teach that in Psychology. So it is really true, people don't like to hear the truth. Guess I will live life being the asshole and have girls hate me for it, haha

There's nothing wrong with telling people your opinion, but I feel like you're taking it a bit far.

I've known a few guys that acted in the way that you describe. They think they're just "being real," but everyone in the class thought they were lame. They'd talk smack about them, and generally make jokes behind their backs. Hell, I used to clown on them, too.

One guy was especially bad with this. He would say whatever popped into his head, without thinking about the consequences. He once told some dude, "I don't consider us close friends." When I heard him say it, I thought, 'What the hell was that?' It was just weird and hella awkward, especially since the person he told it to thought they were pretty cool. That lone comment killed any relationship they had. Eventually, people started avoiding him. At his last birthday party, I heard he freaked with his sister at a club. Yeah, that guy is a real pimp. The sad thing was, he seriously thought he was a dominant male (he'd always put people down and talk over them). It's hard to be dominant when you've got nothing to dominate. The only people that will hang out with him now are his cousins. The dude simply doesn't have any friends.

Don't take this the wrong way; I'm not trying to put you down. I'm just trying to give you some examples of what can happen when you're brutally honest. I think it might be a good idea to hold your tongue once in a while. There's an old phrase, "Learn to pick your battles." You shouldn't get caught up in every fight that comes your way. I think the same applies with conversation. You shouldn't use every opportunity to tell everyone exactly how you feel. It can seriously damage how people perceive you.

If you don't want to take my advice, that's fine. If you feel like you need to just stay true to yourself, then do it; I respect that. I just got two things to say:

1) Anyone who enjoys power and wealth knows that the ability to deal with people is a crucial skill. If you look back over the lives of many historical figures, this is true. Benjamin Franklin, President Lincoln, Rockefeller, Carnegy, etc. They were all revered and respected, and it was all due to the fact that they knew how to deal with people. They didn't always make the best decisions, but they knew how to deflate a situation whenever tension arose; they were born leaders.

2) Be careful. Unless you're built like a truck, you're going to get pounded on one day. If someone ever talked to me like that, I'd plant one right in their face. I imagine there are a lot of guys like that.

Just my 2 cents.

The things you say sound like you say them for shock value. Like you are trying to piss people off with them, so people will respond by getting pissed off.

Honesty is all well and fine, but you're taking it too far. Didn't you mommy ever tell you, "If you don't have something nice to say, don't say anything at all?" That's another extreme, so don't take it that far, but calculate what you say so that you aren't attacking people's values.

Telling psychology majors that they won't have a job when they graduate is a sure way to piss them off, because they spend a LOT of money on it. What right do you have to shit on their hopes and dreams, just because you don't see value in it? You probably pissed Chief off a bit (although he realises your opinion is unimportant, it still affects him), cause you sure pissed me off and I don't even begin my psychology degree until September.

Choose what you say more carefully, otherwise there is no point learning the rest of what PUA has to teach you, because you will constantly blow it in this area. It's a hard way to make friends and lovers alike. I bet even the guys that don't give you shit for it, still don't appreciate it in the least.

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Yeah, I was going to respond earlier to this thread but I couldn't think of a polite way to put it... I think Rye Lee pretty much summed up my feelings on the issue....... but you know what? Now that I started I'm just going to go ahead and say what I wanted to say originally...

Did you ever stop to think that maybe people call you a douche because... um... you're a douche. It pisses me off when people pass off their opinions as facts and then say "well, I'm just being honest." There are plenty of reasons why someone might become a psychology major and just because you don't particularly respect the field doesn't mean that it's not a viable path for someone else. You don't know their background, their situation, their goals, or their future plans and who are you to judge their decisions? Making blanket statements about an entire college major is fucking ignorant and does nothing but create animosity. It's unnecessary and rude as hell. I run into people all the time who only look at the world through this narrow little scope and assume what they happen to see is how the world is... and think that everybody else should know how it REALLY is. They assume that their priorities are the only ones that matter and shun everyone else that doesn't share them. Well... guess what? Unless somebody specifically asks for your opinion on something then nobody fucking cares what you think of them and nobody asked what you think. If you're giving out unsolicited "advise" under the guise of being "honest" then I'd be calling you an asshole too.

P.S. For the record, I totally disagree with your statement about how your friend can explain his life better than his girlfriend can. if it's just a boring ass question like "what did you do last Friday" and she tries to answer then I'm going to go ahead and assume that she was with him or he told her what he did so she is equally as qualified as him to answer. If it's a more in-depth question then I'm going to go out on a limb and say that she is MORE qualified to answer in many cases. The girls I date can all give me insight about myself that I never would have noticed on my own. Either way, I'm going to shut up and see what she has to say.

Even if I TOTALLY agreed with you 100% that only your friend was qualified to answer the question then I still wouldn't cut her off and tell her to shut up... because that would make me a fucking douche bag.

I think what I'll boil it down to, is calibration.

If you don't get the results you desire from other people, then that isn't their fault. There aren't any instances, where you can blame a bad reaction from them on them, it is always your mistake.

Why? Calibration. If you said something that another girl would have found funny, but pissed her off, that's not cause she has a bad sense of humor, it's because you weren't calibrated to her and didn't read her right. If she is snappish because she's PMSing (lets not debate the relevance of this please, this is merely to make a point) then you didn't assume the right frame for that girl, which is always in your control.

If you don't like the fact that you have to vary your way of acting around people in order to make the most of every interaction, then you aren't a PUA, you are just someone that expects the world handed to you on a silver platter. Don't care if you ask her whether she "saw the fight outside", cause that isn't what makes a PUA, a PUA is made by being able to interact with any group in any situation and walk away with the outcome he desired.

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"The 'Brick Walls' are there to allow you to prove how badly you want something!" ~ Randy Pausch

~ Rye

sure i get called a asshole or a dick all the time but i am also surrounded by beautiful woman and people always want to hang with me so is being a asshole such a bad thing doesnt seem like it lol ;)

everyone labels me as the "blunt" guy.. I just don't give a shit

The funny thing about this is that the psychology major you are so inclined to deem as unemployable is the first person who can see through your shallow, made up persona. Being Alpha, as this game stresses, doesn't mean carelessly dominating interactions while spewing your insecurity all over others in the form of poorly thought out statements. Being alpha is all about being certain of yourself to the point that you don't need others approval, and therefore you feel no need to lower everyones value around you and be certain they are aware of your presence via your obnoxious opinions.

Simply put dude, you really need to work on your inner game. You're a dick to others because you fear their rejection. The problem is that you don't have your core values and beliefs handled. As a result, you project your insecurity on others and reject them before they can reject you... very beta. It seems you go into each interaction already feeling defeated, or giving others too much value right off the bat and you immediately go on the defensive. However, its all in your head.

Can't we all just get along??!!?