chick wants to come with another on our first date.



Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 7 guests
Post new topic Reply to topic   Board index » Get Into The Game: New Forum Members Start Here » General Questions




Author Message
PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2017 9:30 pm 
Offline
The Grand Puba
User avatar

Joined: Mon Feb 24, 2014 11:17 pm
Posts: 5962
Location: Los Angeles
Quote:
I don’t even bother responding to a girl’s rejection. If that means no contact so be it. I don’t even like saying something brief like “ok” or “cool”, I’d rather make it clear that I don’t NEED her.
How do you make it clear that you don't NEED her? Is it like this?

Her: Hey Curtis.
You: Hi. It's Netflix and beer night at my place tonight. Swing by.
Her: I can't!
You: I don't need you.

I know that it's absurd to think that's what you would say but there's not a lot of direction in how you make it clear.

_________________
mpuaforum.proboards.com


Top
   
PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2017 9:37 pm 
Offline
PUA Forum Leader

Joined: Tue Mar 31, 2015 3:06 am
Posts: 2540
Quote:
I don’t even bother responding to a girl’s rejection.
That reads as butthurt, IMHO. Especially considering all the communication they've had.

Quote:
If that means no contact so be it. I don’t even like saying something brief like “ok” or “cool”, I’d rather make it clear that I don’t NEED her.

A girl who is playing games like this one is expecting the OP to freak out. It's a form of validation for her, to manipulate a desired response.

So when you text back, "cool, no worries" and then don't contact her, it's going to frustrate her. She's looking for an emotional response. and when she doesn't get one like all the other guys give her, it's going to make her head spin. And if a woman is thinking about you and frustrated by you, she's more attracted to you.

"Cool, no worries" is a completely indifferent response. It's not butthurt like total silence, and it's not "why not? We really should go out soon, you know?".

_________________
Pickup coach. PM for direct, simple coaching.


Top
   
PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2017 9:59 pm 
Offline
The Grand Puba
User avatar

Joined: Mon Feb 24, 2014 11:17 pm
Posts: 5962
Location: Los Angeles
Quote:
So when you text back, "cool, no worries" and then don't contact her, it's going to frustrate her. She's looking for an emotional response. and when she doesn't get one like all the other guys give her, it's going to make her head spin. And if a woman is thinking about you and frustrated by you, she's more attracted to you.
This is the very definition of playing games. The only frustration that comes by continuing playing games is the competitive need to win the game. The problem is that you do not know what her definition of winning is. If you are using indifference as your tool for frustrating her, then it's more likely that her goal is to get you to stop being indifferent. This is what leads to more games. She's trying to manipulate your response, so in turn you try to manipulate hers, which in turn tries to get her to manipulate yours...and this is the cycle that you are endorsing by offering this advice.

_________________
mpuaforum.proboards.com


Top
   
PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2017 10:43 pm 
Offline
Ask a mod for a custom title

Joined: Sat Jun 20, 2009 1:32 am
Posts: 3904
Chick from online is dodging meeting up and wants to keeping talking while telling you she wants a relationship with you.... Personally i just wont talk to her. Not big on trying to frustrate her or "game" her at that point...you're probably just "frustrating" some fat guy in China. For online shit, I'm not fucking around with games...if something is "off" move on. Too many catfishes out there to fuck around with a virtual stranger.


Top
   
PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2017 10:58 pm 
Offline
MPUA Forum Addict

Joined: Sun Apr 10, 2016 12:03 am
Posts: 217
Quote:
Quote:
I don’t even bother responding to a girl’s rejection. If that means no contact so be it. I don’t even like saying something brief like “ok” or “cool”, I’d rather make it clear that I don’t NEED her.
How do you make it clear that you don't NEED her? Is it like this?

Her: Hey Curtis.
You: Hi. It's Netflix and beer night at my place tonight. Swing by.
Her: I can't!
You: I don't need you.

I know that it's absurd to think that's what you would say but there's not a lot of direction in how you make it clear.
Just plain don’t reply to her message, it shows that you’re not afraid to walk away. If a girl won’t give me the time of day I cba to message back, it’s not a text which explicitly requires a reply either.


Top
   
PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2017 11:10 pm 
Offline
The Grand Puba
User avatar

Joined: Mon Feb 24, 2014 11:17 pm
Posts: 5962
Location: Los Angeles
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
I don’t even bother responding to a girl’s rejection. If that means no contact so be it. I don’t even like saying something brief like “ok” or “cool”, I’d rather make it clear that I don’t NEED her.
How do you make it clear that you don't NEED her? Is it like this?

Her: Hey Curtis.
You: Hi. It's Netflix and beer night at my place tonight. Swing by.
Her: I can't!
You: I don't need you.

I know that it's absurd to think that's what you would say but there's not a lot of direction in how you make it clear.
Just plain don’t reply to her message, it shows that you’re not afraid to walk away. If a girl won’t give me the time of day I cba to message back, it’s not a text which explicitly requires a reply either.
I'm in agreement with this type of thinking. Contrary to other statements, it isn't butt hurt to not respond especially if you're not butt hurt over it.

_________________
mpuaforum.proboards.com


Top
   
PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2017 12:01 am 
Offline
Member of MPUA Forum

Joined: Tue May 02, 2017 12:35 am
Posts: 117
I normally block for repeated messages when I haven't replied and she hasn't got the hint, but that's just me.

What Arch means is acting indifferent. "Ok cool, no worries" does work. Had a girl tell me the other day that she doesn't want to commit to anything yet (I never mentioned it) and was stressing over nothing. My indifferent and no pressure response put her at ease and she was all over me last night like nothing was said a few days previously. Hell she even knows I will see other girls and it's cool with her.

All about being chill and fun. If they want to play games and waste my time then there are plenty of other mugs who will put up with poor behaviour.


Top
   
PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2017 12:15 am 
Offline
The Grand Puba
User avatar

Joined: Mon Feb 24, 2014 11:17 pm
Posts: 5962
Location: Los Angeles
Quote:
I normally block for repeated messages when I haven't replied and she hasn't got the hint, but that's just me.

What Arch means is acting indifferent. "Ok cool, no worries" does work. Had a girl tell me the other day that she doesn't want to commit to anything yet (I never mentioned it) and was stressing over nothing. My indifferent and no pressure response put her at ease and she was all over me last night like nothing was said a few days previously. Hell she even knows I will see other girls and it's cool with her.

All about being chill and fun. If they want to play games and waste my time then there are plenty of other mugs who will put up with poor behaviour.
You're comparing apples to oranges. One girl is interested and letting you know where she stands. There is no games being played in that instance...it's just what she's feeling at the moment. "OK cool, no worries" isn't a response to her rejecting you. It's just you showing that you guys are on the same page.

Then you have the other that is a response to a rejection. 1) If she isn't interested, you not being worried about going out with her isn't going to moisten her panties, 2) If she's on the fence, it isn't going to push her to your side if you verbally communicate that you could either take her or leave her. 3) My real point wasn't about the "no worries" part...it was more about the exclamation point of following it up with lies that makes things more transparent...someone at the door or calling you. If you truly aren't worried, then leave it at that. Don't do extra stuff that points out that you are actually bothered over it.

If you're going out of your way to let a girl know that you don't care about her rejecting you, it's an obvious sign that you do care. It's passive aggressive ego protection.

_________________
mpuaforum.proboards.com


Top
   
PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2017 12:36 am 
Offline
PUA Forum Leader

Joined: Tue Mar 31, 2015 3:06 am
Posts: 2540
Sometimes you have to play games to get the game players.

And it's even more satisfying when she finally gets on knees for you.

Just don't focus on only this one girl, and it's okay.

_________________
Pickup coach. PM for direct, simple coaching.


Top
   
PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2017 1:18 am 
Offline
The Grand Puba
User avatar

Joined: Mon Feb 24, 2014 11:17 pm
Posts: 5962
Location: Los Angeles
Quote:
Sometimes you have to play games to get the game players.
Not at all. The girls that play games, IME, are the girls that are the easiest to get when you take their tricks away from them. This is especially for the hottest ones.
Quote:
And it's even more satisfying when she finally gets on knees for you.
I can understand this but my psychology degree would say that this is more ego and compensating for a need to feel power over a woman. Lol. The "she finally gets on (her) knees for you" pretty much puts an emphasis in the need for submission.

_________________
mpuaforum.proboards.com


Top
   
PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2017 1:37 am 
Offline
PUA Forum Leader

Joined: Tue Mar 31, 2015 3:06 am
Posts: 2540
Quote:
If she's on the fence, it isn't going to push her to your side if you verbally communicate that you could either take her or leave her.
It depends on how you communicate that. I've had fence-sitters come to my side after the "cool, no worries" text and then no contact.

It says a lot about you, and reveals not only slight indifference, but a patient and centered man. Most guys won't respond this way. They'll either give her the silent SPAM (which is a subliminal form of pouting) or they'll blow up her phone, begging her to see them or getting angry.

BTW, my comments about "someone calling" or "coming over" when she won't meet up with you were ways to get out of the conversation politely, to train her she'll either meet up with you, or she'll lose the gift of your attention.

_________________
Pickup coach. PM for direct, simple coaching.


Last edited by Arch Stanton on Sun Nov 26, 2017 1:43 am, edited 1 time in total.

Top
   
PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2017 1:41 am 
Offline
PUA Forum Leader

Joined: Tue Mar 31, 2015 3:06 am
Posts: 2540
Quote:
I normally block for repeated messages when I haven't replied and she hasn't got the hint, but that's just me.
I do to. There are needy, uncentered girls, just like there are guys who act that way. Any kind of stalker or obsessive behavior gets blocked.
Quote:
What Arch means is acting indifferent. "Ok cool, no worries" does work.
Yep. It's a great tool in the tool box.

Quote:
Had a girl tell me the other day that she doesn't want to commit to anything yet (I never mentioned it) and was stressing over nothing. My indifferent and no pressure response put her at ease and she was all over me last night like nothing was said a few days previously. Hell she even knows I will see other girls and it's cool with her.
Nice! Most guys wouldn't have responded this way. They'd offer a point-by-point analysis of her words, and try to "fix" things logically. When all they need to do is be chill and fun, and the woman will sort things out in her head, herself.
Quote:
All about being chill and fun.
Yes! Chill and fun will get you what you want.

_________________
Pickup coach. PM for direct, simple coaching.


Top
   
PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2017 2:16 am 
Offline
The Grand Puba
User avatar

Joined: Mon Feb 24, 2014 11:17 pm
Posts: 5962
Location: Los Angeles
Quote:
It depends on how you communicate that. I've had fence-sitters come to my side after the "cool, no worries" text and then no contact.

It says a lot about you, and reveals not only slight indifference, but a patient and centered man. Most guys won't respond this way. They'll either give her the silent SPAM (which is a subliminal form of pouting) or they'll blow up her phone, begging her to see them or getting angry.
Again, the "cool, no worries" isn't the problem. It's the lie that you add to it that makes you look bad. To tell a girl, that you have no worries about it is one thing. To add an excuse on why you can't talk to her now right after you say it's not a problem is suspicious and it takes away any hint of indifference. It's the equivalence of saying, "I'm fine with you not wanting to go out with me but now I don't even want to speak to you."
Quote:
BTW, my comments about "someone calling" or "coming over" when she won't meet up with you were ways to get out of the conversation politely, to train her she'll either meet up with you, or she'll lose the gift of your attention.
You've already bowed out of the conversation politely by saying "no worries." You could even add something more truthful by telling her you'll talk to her later if you want the conversation to end. Instead, you give her a response that will make you sound more bitter than indifferent and it's that type of inconsistencies that get women to give you shit tests. She'll end up testing your indifference when the opportunities present themselves and who really wants to deal with that shit?

_________________
mpuaforum.proboards.com


Top
   
PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2017 2:27 am 
Offline
PUA Forum Leader

Joined: Tue Mar 31, 2015 3:06 am
Posts: 2540
Quote:
Again, the "cool, no worries" isn't the problem. It's the lie that you add to it that makes you look bad.

No, it doesn't. That's a common way to get off the phone with people in your social life or in business. It can be anything..." I have to get back to work," or "gotta go, someone is calling", etc.
It's how you manage your time, and how people access your time. If you haven't told a lie in this way, you aren't talking to people regularly, lol.

You make yourself look foolish, Jack, when you try and argue every tiny point with me.


Quote:
You've already bowed out of the conversation politely by saying "no worries."


But often they'll keep texting you, and wanting your attention. thus the "gotta go".

_________________
Pickup coach. PM for direct, simple coaching.


Top
   
PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2017 2:41 am 
Offline
The Grand Puba
User avatar

Joined: Mon Feb 24, 2014 11:17 pm
Posts: 5962
Location: Los Angeles
Quote:
No, it doesn't. That's a common way to get off the phone with people in your social life or in business. It can be anything..." I have to get back to work," or "gotta go, someone is calling", etc.
It's how you manage your time, and how people access your time. If you haven't told a lie in this way, you aren't talking to people regularly, lol.

You make yourself look foolish, Jack, when you try and argue every tiny point with me.
I don't like lying about shit that's unnecessary. If I want to get off the phone, I'll tell them I'll talk to them later. Or I'll tell them I'll get back to them.

It's not that I'm arguing every point. I'm telling you and other guys that there is no need to be dishonest and play games if you can end up getting the same result. It also can be the difference when it comes to having girls that are around short term and girls that are around long term.

I didn't throw out any insults, you just can't handle someone that has a difference of experience than you. Even worse, someone who has had a different experience than you that doesn't require you needing to play games or being deceitful. I was trying to get to common ground without all the negativity but you want to insult your way out of it because I'm saying it's okay to be honest and not play games.

Remember, the OP asked how to respond to text and your examples sound crazy because of that. Seriously, who texts that they have to go because someone is calling? The whole thing is unrealistic and you should be ashamed of yourself for making that shit up as you go.
Quote:
But often they'll keep texting you, and wanting your attention. thus the "gotta go".
That's why I added the part about talking to them later. It's not dishonest and it doesn't sound butt hurt because they rejected your offer for a date. At least, "gotta go" is honest.

_________________
mpuaforum.proboards.com


Top
   
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic  Reply to topic  [ 129 posts ] 

All times are UTC


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  

Can we be honest?

We want your email address. Let me send you the best seduction techniques ever devised... because they are really good.
close-link