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Two ways of looking at it; A chick who has already said she expects you to pay and is adamant about bringing a friend will meet you in public to most likely drink or eat off of your pocket;

1. You could see that that the odds are stacked against you, she's not starting off open to seduction so save your time and your money.

2. Take the stacked odds, go for the fun and practice. Go on the long shots to build your game. Take the tougher route to be better. I could kinda see the "what do you have to lose" angle, but I'd just say better to go to the bar and meet 2 or more chicks if you want to practice dealing with 2 women. You'd have more of these oppurtunities at the bar if thats what you're after.


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Two ways of looking at it; A chick who has already said she expects you to pay and is adamant about bringing a friend will meet you in public to most likely drink or eat off of your pocket;

1. You could see that that the odds are stacked against you, she's not starting off open to seduction so save your time and your money.

2. Take the stacked odds, go for the fun and practice. Go on the long shots to build your game. Take the tougher route to be better. I could kinda see the "what do you have to lose" angle, but I'd just say better to go to the bar and meet 2 or more chicks if you want to practice dealing with 2 women. You'd have more of these opportunities at the bar if that what you're after.
The chick does not drink at all.i Don't drink too so i rarely do night game.I usually do day game and a bit of online game.If i go on a date,it is usually coffee and stuff like that.She has a foot injury for now.I will ask her to a one on one date after she recovers.Oh i forgot to tell you guys another set pulled this on me last week .I wanted to meet her and she was like i am with my cousin and i have to come with her.I said no i am not comfortable with that,it is either you come alone or we postpone the date to another day.Guess what? she ditched her cousin immediately and we met the same day! I just didn't find her that attractive in person and she was boring so i never pursued her.She was at best a 5 or a 6.Now this second set is much more attractive.She is probably the cutest set i am gaming now she is a 9 at least.That probably explains her attitude.She is probably getting used to getting her way.I made a list of all the chicks i fucked and none were ones who turned up with another chick on the first date.It is not a coincidence.
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Joking aside, OP, I'm glad you have enough experience with this situation that you understand it for what it really is. You're being realistic because of that. You really didn't need the advice and it is more likely that you have more experience in this specific type of situation than some of the guys advising you. So go with your gut.
Yes i have had experiences with such kind of sets and the experiences are not good lol.i have never slept with a chick who came with another on the first date.This one had the courtesy to at least ask if she wants to come with another chick but there are ones who don't ask at all.You just find the other chick with her and those ones are the worst in my opinion.It usually goes south.I don't know maybe i don't have good game or something but it never worked for me.
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My advice is don't go and if you do go, bring a handsome friend so you can isolate the girl you like.

A bull elk doesn't invite the spike bucks to the harem. The OP has a chance to learn how to handle two women on his own.

Invaluable learning experience.

Inviting another male along is a crutch.
It is not i have never tried it.I have tried a lot of the times and usually the following are the observations i made.
1.most chicks who do this are young and very attractive.I rarely get unattractive girls asking to come with a friend on the first date and even if they do they cave in the moment i suggest we make it another day.This tells me that the attractive ones pull this stunt a lot of times.
2.they are college girls so they expect you to pay for everything.
3.It usually goes south because the reason why they ask to come with a friend is very much likely because they are not interested at all in the first place.If she is uncomfortable or a bit afraid,i suggest a very public place ,probably a very well known restaurant where she will feel safe.I have made that suggestion to some chicks who later changed their mind and were like okay if it is going to be public then we can meet .The ones who still insist on coming with a friend are ones who later seem not to be interested.usually what happens is that they are very young probably college girls so you pay for both her and her friend and then they have fun.I try my best give them a good time then later i realize the chick either has a boyfriend or just wants to be friends and is not interested in dating me.I don't think it is a coincidence at all because it is a pattern.


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2.they are college girls so they expect you to pay for everything.
They expect you in particular to pay for everything because as neo pointed out, you are susceptible to it. You created a topic asking for advice on what to do when a woman wants to bring a friend on a date. The right reaction should be an immediate no, not a debate. So you better believe that most guys who even entertain this idea are most likely gonna be paying the tab too.
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3.It usually goes south because the reason why they ask to come with a friend is very much likely because they are not interested at all in the first place.
Yea. O-B-V-I-O-U-S-L-Y.
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If she is uncomfortable or a bit afraid,i suggest a very public place ,probably a very well known restaurant where she will feel safe.I have made that suggestion to some chicks who later changed their mind and were like okay if it is going to be public then we can meet.
If she's not comfortable she'll let you know in one way or another. That can be either on you or on her. But bringing a friend to a date is no about comfort. A woman that's interested in you will not bring a cockblock of all things to fuck up her own chances. I can't believe I have to even explain that. Isn't it common sense?
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The ones who still insist on coming with a friend are ones who later seem not to be interested.usually what happens is that they are very young probably college girls so you pay for both her and her friend and then they have fun.I try my best give them a good time then later i realize the chick either has a boyfriend or just wants to be friends and is not interested in dating me.I don't think it is a coincidence at all because it is a pattern.
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LMAO...this post is comical.

Personally, I would never advise you to go on a date where the odds are stacked against you from the beginning. I just want you to go on the date. I want you to go because multiple people are giving you the advice to make something happen with a girl that wants you to take her out and pay for her and her chaperone. They want you to make something happen with a girl that would rather not go on the date if she couldn't bring her friend. They want you to make something happen with the girl and the girl that's sole purpose is to be a cock block. I want you to go and come back and tell the story. If you pull it off you'll be a bigger legend than the Little Engine that Could.
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LMAO...this post is comical.

Personally, I would never advise you to go on a date where the odds are stacked against you from the beginning. I just want you to go on the date. I want you to go because multiple people are giving you the advice to make something happen with a girl that wants you to take her out and pay for her and her chaperone. They want you to make something happen with a girl that would rather not go on the date if she couldn't bring her friend. They want you to make something happen with the girl and the girl that's sole purpose is to be a cock block. I want you to go and come back and tell the story. If you pull it off you'll be a bigger legend than the Little Engine that Could.
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riverphoenix and Arch. Sure, there's a chance to make something happen. There's also a chance that I'll win the lottery this week but it's not likely. I wouldn't even say do it for the practice because finding two women in a bar or club would be better practice. Contacting a girl that you already know and convincing her to get a friend to join is better practice. A girl that you are already below zero with? Maybe if their conversations were sexually charged but there's not even an indicator of that.

I'm probably one of the most optimistic guys when it comes to men being able to attract women but if the conditions aren't right it's just not going to happen.

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riverphoenix and Arch. Sure, there's a chance to make something happen. There's also a chance that I'll win the lottery this week but it's not likely. I wouldn't even say do it for the practice because finding two women in a bar or club would be better practice. Contacting a girl that you already know and convincing her to get a friend to join is better practice. A girl that you are already below zero with? Maybe if their conversations were sexually charged but there's not even an indicator of that.

I'm probably one of the most optimistic guys when it comes to men being able to attract women but if the conditions aren't right it's just not going to happen.
Fair enough, I didn't see riverphoenix's comment. Two random bar girls > two entitled girls who are likely uninterested. Save a bit of money too.

I do have literally no idea why anyone would bother. Each to their own and I'll end up eating my words if this guy gets a threesome.


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UPDATE: I asked her out this weekend and she agreed but i haven't probed the subject of the friend.How do i bring it up?


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This is where the gym thing is crucial. It sexualizes things FOR you, without saying a fucking word.

Girls melt for it. In fact, studies indicate muscles increase first night lays 30-40%. It's why I harp on the gym game as a vital component of a multi-prong approach to personal evolution, along with reading.

Situations that "seem difficult" become much, much easier. And you don't have to say a word to convince anyone of anything. and when you do speak, you'll be well-read enough to speak intelligently.

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If you are living in abundance, there is zero reason whatsoever to go out with a girl and her bestie. ZERO!


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This is where the gym thing is crucial. It sexualizes things FOR you, without saying a fucking word.

Girls melt for it. In fact, studies indicate muscles increase first night lays 30-40%. It's why I harp on the gym game as a vital component of a multi-prong approach to personal evolution, along with reading.

Situations that "seem difficult" become much, much easier. And you don't have to say a word to convince anyone of anything. and when you do speak, you'll be well-read enough to speak intelligently.
I don't get what you are talking about sorry.Could you elaborate more with respect to the title of this post?
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If you are living in abundance, there is zero reason whatsoever to go out with a girl and her bestie. ZERO!
I am not living in much abundance lol but i have a couple of sets.I asked her out this weekend and she agreed to a date but my question is how do i probe the issue of the friend without sounding like dick? how do i politely let her know i want the date to be only one on one?


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You could make a subtle comment like “It’s two for one at the local pizza place if you fancy a bite to eat after the date.” “Have you ever seen the film You, Me and Dupree?” (the plot is about a third wheel). Stuff on that wavelength.

She’s created the problem by inviting her friend, if it’s sounds dickish so be it. It’s bitchier to invite someone along and expect her to pay.


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This is where the gym thing is crucial. It sexualizes things FOR you, without saying a fucking word.

Girls melt for it. In fact, studies indicate muscles increase first night lays 30-40%. It's why I harp on the gym game as a vital component of a multi-prong approach to personal evolution, along with reading.

Situations that "seem difficult" become much, much easier. And you don't have to say a word to convince anyone of anything. and when you do speak, you'll be well-read enough to speak intelligently.
I don't get what you are talking about sorry.Could you elaborate more with respect to the title of this post?


Sure. Women don't respect your physicality, or your mentality. They can smell blood in the water, like a shark, indicating weak prey.

And when a woman says "you're taking me out, and paying, and my friend is coming", YOU'RE the prey.

You said you've had these situations before, and they "always end bad". Yet you haven't once mentioned how you've improved yourself physically and mentally so that these situations begin to turn in your favor.

I offered you a path out of the excuses, and a path into success with scenarios like this.

Changing your physical and mental dynamic will bring you success in these kinds of scenarios. Because, let's be honest, if it "usually goes bad" with two women, it usually goes bad with one woman. The details in the thread reveal flaws in overall game, two women or a hundred.

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how do i politely let her know i want the date to be only one on one?
Politely isn't really the best way to get a woman feeling that you have an edge. I'm not saying to be rude, to be a dick or to be disrespectful. I am saying to bust her balls on it, as her balls should be busted on it: "it's just going to u and me though.....right?" Anything other than her gleeful reply, just walk, it's not worth it. You want to be with women who are GLEEFUL to spend time with you. Forget the rest.


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how do i politely let her know i want the date to be only one on one?
Politely isn't really the best way to get a woman feeling that you have an edge. I'm not saying to be rude, to be a dick or to be disrespectful. I am saying to bust her balls on it, as her balls should be busted on it: "it's just going to u and me though.....right?" Anything other than her gleeful reply, just walk, it's not worth it. You want to be with women who are GLEEFUL to spend time with you. Forget the rest.
well put.I think that is what i will do and if she doesn't bite it,i will just ghost her until she agrees to a one on one date.Thanks for the suggestion.


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