Don't worry. We all pretty much knew that it wasn't going to happen and that it was going to take a while for you to come up with a response.

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Lol i am not going to do that.Will just tell her i want a one on one date and see if her stance has softened.we are texting more and talking on the phone and it is going well.
Yes i am doing a bit okay with women.I have a fuck buddy who is like a 7 but i just want a variety of pussy lol.I don't know how it will go with her sister but i will invite her to a one on one date and see where it goes.There is one poster who once here gave a piece of advice to me or to someone else here and his name is eddie fews and he said something like making a woman fall in love with you is all about testing her compliance levels.The more you make her comply,the more she is more likely to fall in love with you and i wish i followed that advice in all my sets lol.I'll see how it goes with her and update you.i haven't yet asked her out again,suppose she still insists on coming with a friend what should i do? My gut feeling is to ghost her.
lol.I'll invite her on a one on one date again and see where it goes.If she still insists on bringing a friend,i guess i'll just pull out.

@pilgrim meister, it set the alarm bells ringing for me too.Usually i wouldn't have minded a chick asking to come with a friend but from the experiences i had,they taught me that when a girl asks to come with a friend it either means she is interested but not comfortable with you alone,or just not interested at all and even if she is interested and you agree to let her come with a friend,you are basically letting her set the frame. i have had more success with girls i asked to come to a place alone where they would usually take a car,a cab or a bus than picking them from their home and then going on a date then.I have also had more success when the girl comes to the first date alone than when she comes with a friend.Coincidence or there is a reason for that?

You are way too accommodating. The thing with instances like this, is the more open you are to chicks even mentioning friends coming along, or expecting you to pay, the more you'll get chicks. You dont have solid boundaries, and the more you try to work around silliness like this, the more you'll get chicks asking you. This chick only suggest this because she sees you're a guy who will be ok with it. If you had a solid mindset and you arent a guy who would even entertain a chick bringing a friend, or a chick expecting you to pay, she wouldnt have brought it up. She does, because somewhere in your communication with her she picked up that this would fly with you. Start nexting chicks when they say they're bringing a friend or that you're paying....you'll get less chicks playing you in the future.

I agree it's not a great sign when a girl brings a friend on a date, lol.

But let's look at it from a strictly realism standpoint:

You're going on a date with TWO women, not one. A crafty male will make lemonade from lemons.

I'd go on the date, and use it as practice for charming multiple women at once, and improving group dynamic communication. Remember, EVERY interaction you have with women is a chance for you to improve. and even if it sucks, it's better than jerking off and video games.

Go to the date. Sexualize right away, and invite them over after 45 minmutes. You never know what can happen.

My experience, OP, is that sex-positive women are open to way, way more crazy fun times than the average guy who puts them on a "fairy princess" pedestal thinks.

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It's because it's a shield so her friend can interrogate you and also to see if you were willing to walk away. Also it's a way for her to easily slot you into the friendzone.

You need to have standards. Even if it means going dry for a while by nexting those who don't comply.

Looks aside, write down 10 things that you wouldn't be happy with. If a potential date brakes one or more it's bye bye. By doing this you are taking power and having standards. Yes you may lose a pretty face or two, but longer term you will attract better women.

If you have standards, women that like you will be on edge and worry about you walking away for another woman and therefore they will try harder and comply with you more. That then puts you in control.
If you don't have these standards, they will sniff it out and won't have to try and comply, as they know you will put up with it and won't walk away. That scenario gives them the power.

Just by you having standards, and walking away from time wasters and users, gives you more power.

Hope that makes it clearer. If you do go on a date with both of them, them treat them both the same and game both of them for fun.

I don’t mind paying for a chick on the first date, especially if she is a college student and is not working, but what i don’t like is when a chick suggests to come with another.I do agree i may be a bit accommoditing but honestly it is not like every chick suggests to come with another during the first date infact it occurs to me rarely but it does occur still .The reason why i started this thread is that this is one of the instances where a girl suggests to come with a friend and i have never properly addressed it or sought advice.It just can’t be a coincidence that almost every chick who suggests to come with another during the first date turns out not to be interested? I plan to suggest a date to her again.The moment she said she wants to come with a friend i never asked her out but i want to do now since i feel i have built more comfort but what should i exactly say to her if she insists on coming with a friend?

LMAO...this post is comical.

Personally, I would never advise you to go on a date where the odds are stacked against you from the beginning. I just want you to go on the date. I want you to go because multiple people are giving you the advice to make something happen with a girl that wants you to take her out and pay for her and her chaperone. They want you to make something happen with a girl that would rather not go on the date if she couldn't bring her friend. They want you to make something happen with the girl and the girl that's sole purpose is to be a cock block. I want you to go and come back and tell the story. If you pull it off you'll be a bigger legend than the Little Engine that Could.

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I am not going to go on a date with both of them because it never works for me.I have gone on dates with two chicks and usually it ends badly.I have realized most girls who suggest to come with a friend are ones who are not interested but want to go out and have fun.They ask you to pay,have a good time and usually they are so tight together and you may have to fight for their attention.It is harder to isolate the chick when she comes with a friend because the friend at times could become a total cockblock.Some chicks come with friends purposely so as to derail your game and yeah i agree about the part whether there are using their friends to judhge you and i think when you let them do that you are suggesting you have no standards and you are willing to do anything to please her.

Lol yeah.I have been gassed up before and be like imma make something happen and be a legend but usually the oppossite happens lol .When i go into a set with little or no expectations is when usually i succeed.I won’t go on a date because i know the odds are stacked up against me and i am not the greatest PUA.i am like an intermediate.My game is just ok i get laid here and there but i don’t think i am good enough to succeed when the odds are against me.i’ll wait and bid my time and play it safe.I have a couple of other sets so i will go on dates with them during weekdays rather than this set.If she comes on a date alone at least i would have pushed her compliance levels but even if the date goes south,at least i would have spent on one chick lol.

I've already said. My advice is don't go and if you do go, bring a handsome friend so you can isolate the girl you like.

A bull elk doesn't invite the spike bucks to the harem. The OP has a chance to learn how to handle two women on his own.

Invaluable learning experience.

Inviting another male along is a crutch.

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What's wrong with that? Fun is how you get laid, lol. I have a threesome every few months, and because I went out on a bunch of dates with women and their friends, I can now work the dynamic very well. You won't be able to unless you build more experience.
This tells me you might be overweight. A fit, confident man does NOT have to "fight for attention" from single women, and even groups of women. Even a little face bloat can fuck your game for years.



Only if you can't handle the group dynamic. Again, you DON'T need to isolate two women, especially if they are sex-positive. You seduce both of them.

As far as paying for them, hell no. That's the biggest red flag here, not the friend. I love strong, independent women who pay their own way early on. It's hot. when the check comes, turn away and laugh. It;s fun, man.


Only if your frame is bad. This should be your frame going into the date: "Are these two women good enough for me?" and "This is going to be fucking fun". You carry that tone in your posture, in your speech, everything you do. And you sit relaxed, legs spread like a king and don't yap your ass off.

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With all due respect to him, this guy isn't a bull elk yet. He's been coaxed into betabuxing a (probably uninterested) girl and her friend's drinks for the evening. Having a friend along will make it easier for him, gotta walk before you can run.

Joking aside, OP, I'm glad you have enough experience with this situation that you understand it for what it really is. You're being realistic because of that. You really didn't need the advice and it is more likely that you have more experience in this specific type of situation than some of the guys advising you. So go with your gut.

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